TOPIC: [SSRP] Gluon gun, why?

Server Name
DarkRP

Suggestion Title
Nerf / Remove the Gluon Gun

How would it benefit the server
So im sitting in my base today, minding my own business and suddenly this guy comes along and soaks up my base like a vacuum cleaner before i can get my hands on the keyboard, i messaged him about what had happended, he explained it to me and we talked about it.

Now; who was this fun for?
> Sure wasn't fun for me
> He didn't seem very exited about it either
> So who stands to gain?

I would suggest that we:

A. Remove it completely, reimbursing players some money to replace the item.

B. Give the Gluon gun a minimum range, just like any other explosive, give the gluon gun a point where it will hurt the attacker, that way they will atleast have to start at the beginning of the base and they wont just be able to oneshot the defender using the weapon.

Now i agree that money should be able to purchase power on ssrp, but this just leaves little to no counterplay to the defender.

Potential Issues/Exploits
N/A

Additional notes
I am generally against explosives and i would rather see the thundergun removed aswell, but this is ridiculous, please consider doing something.

Theres allready been a suggestion to remove it and as far as I know there have been more arguments against it being removed, ofcourse they are mostly from the people who posses the Gluon gun making them biased but i still think theres a slim chance of it being removed

Heres a small add you SSRP while its there:

Hello, welcome to zarp SSRP we see you new here takes this as a warning, you do not get to build a base or a player will 1 hit it, don't make money or a player will 1 hit it, don't raid anyone as a player will 1 hit you and best of all don't complain about it or we will 1 hit you off our servers

*end*

But jokes aside you don't really have much chance as a new player on your own unless you buy booster packs or vip :'(

Zarp p2w confirmed?

Agreed. Too many explosives are already made into the game..

Thundergun, it usually takes 2-4 hits to take down a base of medium size.
Gluon Gun, takes down pretty much everything
Nuclear Launch, Just too OP, but it barely passes due to it being launched in 15 mins... Still annoying af.
I'd prefer to have window wipers to raid a base with, rather than these weapons.

I Agreed with this it too op

You have to understand that the person using the gun is putting about 30-50mill at stake to run into someones base with it even though it can still kill people instantly they can die with it at the same time.

Esrever wrote:
Even though the risk of using it is negated by the more than overly substantial reward.

123DoorGiveaway wrote:
This also includes the fact that the ones who wield the weapon have 30/60 seconds to shoot it. The Gluon gun can be shot from a long distance, thus rendering him invulnerable to the defender. If for some reason that the raider with the Gluon gun misses the target, the raider will be able to 1 hit the defender with ease.

How about. If you are holstering the gun you can't swap weapons or it will cancel. Because people start holstering then wait until its almost done and shoot.

i lost already 2 gluon guns -.-"
nothing bad about it...

Nutzu3650XL wrote:
i was against all of them...
also milkor and all others, all of them are op

-SUPPPORT

I HAVE WASTED TOO MUCH MONEY ON MY GLUON GUNS AND I ENJOY MY TIME ON ZARP WITH THESE BABIES DON'T REMOVE THEM :/

Nutzu3650XL wrote:
Price should also always be taken into consideration because that is what decides its rate of usage in combat.

I would also kind of agree as this does really just leave the new/inexperienced or tbh any player out there, defenseless if this weapon is as powerful as you describe it to be.

All in all, i think instead it should've been another explosive rather then what it turned out to be.

The Eliminator wrote: Yet you came back and applied for staff on the very server that as this crazy outrages uncontrollable long distance killing machine? It can't be that bad because If I was playing somewhere and I didn't like it I would of found somewhere that as things I do like. I hear there is a couple servers out there that have a couple glocks.


Nutzu3650XL wrote: Unfortunately it's impossible to balance the amount of weapons we have because you can't have a AK do the same damage as a Thundergun because there would be zero point in having "special weapons" everyone would just use the AK.



Anyways in my opinion its fine I see plenty of people losing them and plenty of people risk losing them to raid a base with a printer that as only 30k in them so the benefits of raiding with them isn't really HIGH at all. The issue is that people can't adapt or learn to build their base around the special weapons. ( well some can't but most people learn tricks to do this ) people was complaining about the Orb strike and now it's just a not as "OP" because now they know to double up their props and it doesn't really do much damage.

When do people learn they will never remove these weapons lol So many threads and still in.

The one time someone raided me with a Gluon gun i just pulled out my LMG after no time they were messaging me saying "I'm gonna kill you piece of crap" it was quite funny, But jokes aside its not that bad. I'm guessing not even a quarter of the server has them because of the price. just leave it.

Just because he doesnt like one part of the deal, doesnt mean he has to discard it, Zarp has a ton of great things, a custom ui, custom rules, a great community etc.

There is no server out there which we would rather play on, but that doesnt mean its perfect and that it cant be improved. Are you basically saying that youre not going to listen to the players until they start quitting? Because thats a little late.
Just go back to the model of explosives and weapons serving two different purposes, nobody would ever use an orbital strike to kill another player.
But thats the problem, when you add a gun that can oneshot anything anywhere, then there is no counterplay.

A raids outcome should mostly be decided by the skill of the players, not the amount of time they have been afk, printing in their bases. I dont care how much money they put at stake, because usually they will have plenty of it, compared to the guy getting smashed, also nobody raids to make money.

I could deal with the orbital strikes and the milkors because once they where over, the raiders still had to enter the base with their aks and fight.

It doesnt create a fun experience, when a raid ends the attacker will feel like a cheater and the defender will feel like quitting.

RedPowder wrote: Not sure, but I think I came back before the Gluon Gun, correct me if I'm wrong.

And besides, I don't RP much, but when I do, I get gluons in my face :/ I came back because I want to help people. Just because I don't like one section of the server, doesn't mean I hate it.

Gems this is what happened:

Some time ago para did a remove request on the thundergun, it was too OP. could blow any base up and everyone went into discussion about it.

Wanna know how they fixed the problem?

Putting in an even more overpowered gun to raid bases with.

So instead of thinking about a solution for the thundergun being too OP. they add gluon gun.

REMOVE IT ALREADY