TOPIC: [SSRP-Suggestion] Mod Bans?

Server Name:
DarkRP 1,2

Suggestion Title:
Moderator should be able to ban people for not more than 6 hours. Admins should be able to look at the mods bans and ask questions.

How would it benefit the server:
Alot of times only mods are online, and i feel that some people don't respect a warning and they don't give a damn. I think Mods should be trusted more.

Potential Issues/Exploits:
none

Additional notes:
A lot of mods told me about this issue, sometimes the people even leave to avoid punishment (because you can't warn someone when he is offline) In my opinion this should be fixed.

I agree with this, it was an annoying thing in my mod time.

+Support

i think this might be a good idea , it could even be if they could ban for a day , back when i was mod i had to ask an admin and they told me for proof and alot of shit , and then they don't ban him at all .

I'll go ahead and +support this

As I have said in many previous threads there is no need to give extra powers to moderators to make their job "easier" as they have all the necessary tools to handle any situation. The warn system is in place for a good reason and will automatically ban them if they break many rules. You say people don't reapect a warn so you need the power to ban but you should not ban someone for something that is only a warnable offense to "get respect". The reason moderators do not have these kinds of powers is in part because they are not trusted yet. If you are a trustworthy person and do your job well you will have admin in no time. The only reason you are moderator for a long period of time is because you are not ready to be trusted with the powers of administrator. Adding more powers to moderator therefore is pointless as they have everything they need to handle rule breakers and if you are trustworthy and have proven yourself you will be accepted for administrator where you are trusted with more powers. All in all adding powers to moderator is pointless as explained and I do not support this or any suggestions adding on powers to the moderator position.

@Jacknelli
a quick non-permanent and short-ish ban option is a fine addition to a moderator's toolbelt.
It will also learn them when to use it, and how to use it correctly.

The powers gained by advancing to admin are included with permanent banning options, which is a totally different case than this one. This wont increase their power, it will just make their job easier since they wont have to triple warn someone to get them out quickly in some cases.

I hate to say it, but I disagree, moderators are less trusted staff members, they are there, as their name suggests, to moderate the server, keep checking everything is ok. Administrators (again as the name suggests,) are there to administrate sanctions against frequent rulebreakers caught by themselves or the mods. If the admins don't listen to the mods then it is the moderators duty to inform a higher up staff member about the laziness.

This is just my own logic, so please feel free to blow it to pieces (if you can )

If only I didn't have to go I would indeed tear your logic to pieces. As for illuminati yes it would be a nice addition but if you want to immediately remove them from the server a kick will suffice an if they are a continuous rule breaker warn them as they break rules and the warn system will take care of the rest.

Jacknelli wrote:
I think you may missunderstood me, i wanted to say that players don't RESPECT the warnings, i mean that they don't give a damn because they know they have to do 4 things wrong to get banned. And that for 30 minutes. And i already have the admin rank, but like i said it is a suggestion, and it is not to make "the job for mods easier". It's to keep the server clean if even no admins are online.

+Support.

Many a time I have came across a mass rdm'er, propspammer and other serious rules that are bannable when no admins are online, and whenever I ask any admins to ban the offender, they ask for proof but by the time an admin responds the logs would have been cleared.

This suggestion is nothing serious, it's just a quick and easy way to punish serious rule-breakers without waiting for an admin or creating new report abuse threads, who would it harm?

YourDayzAreUp wrote:
The players who are wrongfully banned from a short tempered moderator.

They do not have the ban command for a reason and it is a very simple one, they are not trusted with it.

Clocket wrote:
Of course the Super-Admins have to train the mods, and tell them what to ban for and what not.

This would be so easily abused.

I don't see the point in giving someone mod if they cant be trusted with it.

TheAp4ch3 wrote:
It has very little to do with whether or not they know how to use it, it's all a matter of trust and trust is something that is earned over time not trained into someone.


ARTZ wrote:
They are trusted with the powers they are currently given, that is why they have the powers they have and not others.

Stop it you fools! Deny this! Because spamming warns is better inorder to get a temp ban! YES YES

Chris_Smith wrote:
Spamming warns would be abuse of powers...

Clocket wrote:
Exactly that's the problems, till the player gets banned, the moderator has to warn him 4 times, in that time he can propblock, propspam AND mass rdm, he would still only be kicked. He would ruin the game experience of everyone on the server.
Now with the trusting issue theres a good solution: The Admins+ should be able to see what the mods are banning for, and should be able to ask questions. If someone was clearly abusing, he gets the same thing that everyone who abuses gets, a demote or a tier warning.

TheAp4ch3 wrote: A higher ranking staff member shouldn't need to look over a moderators shoulders all the time, they are supposed to be trusted with the powers they have. Giving them a power they are not trusted with only to have higher ranking members of staff taking more time out of administrating the server to look over the moderators is not the good solution that you claimed it to be.

Alright, I understand it can be frustrating for Mods because they can't ban people but there is a good reason for this. Mods are new members of staff so it takes time for them to get use to what punishment fits what situation it would really turn out to be a disaster if we gave all mods the right to ban. What if a new mod never staffed a server was on his own got frustrated because he wasn't ready for the role or couldn't simple handle people calling him a bad mod he could have half of the server banned before we knew it. The mod time is like a grace period so people to have some power to be able to manager the server and also gain trust, respect and the right to ban someone. You only have to go to one meeting to apply for admin so if you think that's to much trouble then your not really ready for admin. There is also a warning system in place so if someone is mass rdm'ing or propspamming you can give them 4warning 1 after another and they will be banned for 1hr, which with this time you collect your proof and send it to a admin where they will ban the person for the reason provided. Time always tells if someone is ready if you can grind for 2/3weeks with out having them powers then if I was to look at you I would say well he managed to keep the server running smoothly without them he must be ready to show me what he can do with them.

-Red