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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297453

Shit suggestion Imma just remove it from mind and memory and post.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297456

Can you clarify how you think this rule should be enforced? I'm not sure how feasible this suggestion actually is.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297488

I'm quite confused about the "How it would benefit the server" part, but Teaming is already a punishable offense, technically falling under the category of Metagaming.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297493

Metagaming = teaming
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297495

So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297504

Nick0GR wrote:
So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
???? he is literally just confused . he did not know the rule existed just david told him it already exists so all is good now
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297505

TheFierceOwl wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
???? he is literally just confused . he did not know the rule existed just david told him it already exists so all is good now
The suggestion still stands though, even if he was confused.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297514

Nick0GR wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
???? he is literally just confused . he did not know the rule existed just david told him it already exists so all is good now
The suggestion still stands though, even if he was confused.

You can’t suggest to add something that already exists.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297519

Tried to get one added ages ago.
Don't see how I need to know that you're a T to sit on top of the tower and kill everyone in sight with you but I guess to many it's the same thing.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297520

Jim_Jam wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
???? he is literally just confused . he did not know the rule existed just david told him it already exists so all is good now
The suggestion still stands though, even if he was confused.

You can’t suggest to add something that already exists.
His suggestion would be to remove it, not add it? Unless I'm very confused.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297531

Nick0GR wrote:
Jim_Jam wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
So basically you want us to remove the meta-gaming rule?
???? he is literally just confused . he did not know the rule existed just david told him it already exists so all is good now
The suggestion still stands though, even if he was confused.



You can’t suggest to add something that already exists.
His suggestion would be to remove it, not add it? Unless I'm very confused.

His suggestion is to add the meta gaming rule because he didn't know it already existed.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297547

The context behind this is a bunch of people put on the trump skin and claimed an area called "trump Island", the traiters in the group would shoot anyone that came close and the innocents in the group did not kill the traiters for kosing of of location, hence the teaming part, he is basically saying the innos who didn't kill t baiters should be punished.

in my opinion this would be hard to implement as you can't do much without video evidence plus as long as the innos don't start shooting it's just having fun and it's rare that this kind of thing even happens, it's not such a big deal we should make a rule about it
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297779

I think such a rule should be added, but with different phrasing, as metagaming is different from what teaming in TTT is.
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What I believe should be under teaming is:
-Cooperating with other players to purposely disrupt the concept of TTT.
Example: what jam said the comment above.
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-Teaming with other players to RDM/Helping players from the opposite teams.
Example #1: Two players sitting on top of tower, one being a T, the other being an innocent, and they don't kill each other but both shoot other players.
Example #2: A traitor revives an innocent and they don't kill each other.
Example #3: Player A (Traitor) kills other innocents, doesn't id bodies, and player B (Innocent/Detective) kills anyone that shoots him.

Of course, following the examples above not everything should be considered teaming, because sometimes Traitors kill other Traitors due to circumstances, and then if an innocent protects him it's understandable. Hope I'm making my point clear.

I do think, however, that without Death Scenes being fixed this is a bit harder to prove using just the logs. Not impossible though.
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297792

CatlessCat wrote:
I think such a rule should be added, but with different phrasing, as metagaming is different from what teaming in TTT is.
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What I believe should be under teaming is:
-Cooperating with other players to purposely disrupt the concept of TTT.
Example: what jam said the comment above.
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-Teaming with other players to RDM/Helping players from the opposite teams.
Example #1: Two players sitting on top of tower, one being a T, the other being an innocent, and they don't kill each other but both shoot other players.
Example #2: A traitor revives an innocent and they don't kill each other.
Example #3: Player A (Traitor) kills other innocents, doesn't id bodies, and player B (Innocent/Detective) kills anyone that shoots him.

Of course, following the examples above not everything should be considered teaming, because sometimes Traitors kill other Traitors due to circumstances, and then if an innocent protects him it's understandable. Hope I'm making my point clear.

I do think, however, that without Death Scenes being fixed this is a bit harder to prove using just the logs. Not impossible though.

#1 and #3 would be rdm for the innocents anyway so I don't see the purpose in that being added. #2 shouldnt be added as reviving one innocent would disrupt the game. As for situations like trump island I don't think people realise that if they chose to kill as innocents (which some of them did) they were warned and slain. I don't see the point in adding a rule that would prevent Ts from saving their buddy to kill until last. It's seems to me that it would ruin more fun than it would create fun for others
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[TTT] Suggestion 3 years 4 months ago #1297839

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After thinking for a bit more, I do see where you're coming from, and it makes this too difficult to actually enforce, since it would most likely be certain specific situations with no clear distinction. Since the Traitor does not necessarily have to kill innocents, you can't really tell if they're teaming, unless they make it really obvious like in my first example, and throughout multiple rounds.
Semi-similar to the trump island incident. You can't really punish the traitors for being there.
Thanks for enlightening me and cleansing my soul from the foul.
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