TOPIC: [TTT Suggestion] No DNA on backstab

Server Name: TTT

Suggestion Title: No DNA on backstab

How would it benefit the server: The purpose of the knife is to be a sneak weapon which is why it's a one hit on backstab however DNA can still be found on the body which IMO kills the purpose of being a viable weapon for getting a backstab kill. What I am proposing to be changed is that it has no DNA on backstab however if you fail the backstab and instead have to hit them twice with the knife it will have DNA on the body.

Potential Issues/Exploits: None I know of, would like to hear your thoughts on any issues you may see with this though.

Additional notes: N/A

I don't think I like this idea. A knife is such an easy kill and the dna is the biggest weakness it got and you can just buy a decoy making the dna tracking impossible

Tom. wrote: That means you have to spend two credits just to get one kill, bit sketchy imo

I don't want to take credit for this since someone else brought it up in the Discord, but as you said buying a decoy for a knife kill requires 2 credits to secure one kill, and if anyone is nearby it's not hard to notice someone die to a knife, so making it somewhat easier to get away with could definitely raise the appeal of a knife over almost any other weapon. Backstabs aren't always just stabbing someone in the back, with how broken the knife's mechanics are it's almost luck at times whether it one-hits or not, and it's too high a risk for such a low reward of taking out a single target when a C4, Poison Dart Rifle and even niche weapons like the Poltergeist can secure multiple for the same cost. I think this will be good in the long run, although I can see how it'd be frustrating to get knifed in plain sight but nothing can be done about it because nobody paid attention to who was nearby.

Chespin wrote: I backstabbed someone in a crowd and not a single person knew until they retrieved DNA which is annoying because I pulled a risky move and got away with it until they found out it was me. How broken the mechanics can be is out of control since the hitboxes can fuck up now and then but majority of the time for me personally it’s been fine

hot take: current dna is a terrible system and other methods such as testers should be buffed and new methods should be introduced e.g dna being credit shop item that can be bought multiple times but single use each time

this is a good idea though +support

I'm fine with the knife being buffed in anyway as long as it can't one hit from the front like before because that was annoying as fuck and made me not want to play TTT. While i don't think it would make much sense for a knife to leave no DNA but the guns do, having to use 2 credits buying the knife and the decoy i will almost certainly need makes the knife a never buy item for me, especially when the things like the harpoon exist that is just a ranged knife with no backstab mecahnic or DNA. In all honesty i think you could just remove DNA completly from knife kills and it wouldnt be OP, if you fuck up the backstab you are more than likely gonna get called out for it anyway so leaving DNA is a bit overkill.

sorIe wrote:
If im gonna walk around as a detective with a big ass target on my head i think being able to take DNA is fine, if i didnt have a DNA scanner i would defo turn avoid being detective on if it even works. They added the portable tester which is a cool idea but in practice is mostly just used to annoy people when they are afk the first 20s of their t round and get killed because of it. As for DNA being in the credit shop would that really change anything? Like what else is a detective gonna spend credits on.

sorIe wrote: Idk if you knew but Detectives can buy a portable tester from D menu which is a one-time use, you have to hold it on them for 5(?) seconds to fully test them and it will tell you if they're a traitor or not in chat.

Clarky wrote: Well I guess a buff wouldn't hurt then, sounds like a small change that would maybe make the knife more used.

There is a decoy for a reason

I Like the knife the way it is now , as atleast I consider it an end game weapon
When people are already wounded and you have credits to spare

I personally only use it at those situations where theres few people left alive

It leaving not DNA could be a good thing but again , the weapon itself is rather shit since 10/10 it doesn't backstab

Adds stealth to the weapon, I have no issue with this

Bump

pretty solid suggestion with great feedback.
kinda stupid that you need to buy a decoy to hide the fact you killed someone sneakily :c.

Spectrum wrote:
the whole point of decoy is to hide any murder. Only competent and good detectives can kill you. Having the knife as a none DNA weapon just kinda dumbdumb

The Winged Dragon of Raa wrote:
I think we have different definitions of "competent and good detectives"

With the state of the knife (it being extremely inconsistent, a facestab counting as a backstab and vice versa), I don't think this should be an addition.