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Suggestion Title: Training Policy How would it benefit the server:
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Additional notes: I have drafted a policy for this suggestion: Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ][ Click to hide ] Lead Team members, amongst other duties, are responsible for training newly recruited/promoted staff members. To ensure staff are trained in the most efficient way as possible, this policy will cover all relevant information for training staff and any rules lead team members should abide by. Note that this policy will not guarantee all training sessions will be up to standard as it is up to the trainers to ensure all content is covered to a reasonable degree. Training Rules
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In addition to this suggestion, I am proposing to make some training section in teamspeak that would have 5(?) training channels and a training lobby where users could wait to be trained. Feel free to discuss |
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this would be great, I see no problems really
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Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members
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Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. |
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.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. |
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Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it |
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.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility edit: Also the point of you saying not a lot of people would apply for it shows that not every lead team member should be able to train people, I'm sure some look at it as a chore. You want dedicated people who are enthusiastic about it. |
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Last Edit: 4 years 9 months ago by Plankton.
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Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! |
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As the cm the community wants I will personally train every staff member
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Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves |
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Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves Easier said than done. I don't think there is a ranking among LT members on each server. But in such a case, if a poor choice/decision is made on the trainer, it could affect lots of fresh staff members. I may be thinking way too much and far about this. |
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Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves Easier said than done. I don't think there is a ranking among LT members on each server. But in such a case, if a poor choice/decision is made on the trainer, it could affect lots of fresh staff members. I may be thinking way too much and far about this. Not sure what you mean about ranking among lead team servers but if someone is poor at training then they can have the privileges taken away just like any other rank and thats also the reason why each person who wants to be able to train new staff would have to do it infront of the community team so they can see if they have a good in depth training program |
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Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves Easier said than done. I don't think there is a ranking among LT members on each server. But in such a case, if a poor choice/decision is made on the trainer, it could affect lots of fresh staff members. I may be thinking way too much and far about this. Not sure what you mean about ranking among lead team servers but if someone is poor at training then they can have the privileges taken away just like any other rank and thats also the reason why each person who wants to be able to train new staff would have to do it infront of the community team so they can see if they have a good in depth training program I agree and get you on this one, once again I'm favorable about the idea. But then again, and I was myself HA for months on TTT, "spotting" a poor trainer is difficult. It takes time and, more importantly, several failed trainings to realize. What I meant by ranking, is the fact that it's even harder to determine who is better in training than the rest. The idea is nice and would benefit the LT, giving more specialized members. But the risks are high if not executed properly. I don't know if I make sense. if not, just forget about my comments, and have a nice evening |
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Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves Easier said than done. I don't think there is a ranking among LT members on each server. But in such a case, if a poor choice/decision is made on the trainer, it could affect lots of fresh staff members. I may be thinking way too much and far about this. Not sure what you mean about ranking among lead team servers but if someone is poor at training then they can have the privileges taken away just like any other rank and thats also the reason why each person who wants to be able to train new staff would have to do it infront of the community team so they can see if they have a good in depth training program I agree and get you on this one, once again I'm favorable about the idea. But then again, and I was myself HA for months on TTT, "spotting" a poor trainer is difficult. It takes time and, more importantly, several failed trainings to realize. What I meant by ranking, is the fact that it's even harder to determine who is better in training than the rest. The idea is nice and would benefit the LT, giving more specialized members. But the risks are high if not executed properly. I don't know if I make sense. if not, just forget about my comments, and have a nice evening not really any risk, if they leave it the way it is currently then any lead team can train weather they're bad or not this way they are atleast tested before given that privilege I don't see any problem with it at all |
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Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Chienman wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
.uzi wrote:
Plankton wrote:
Don't really like this idea, rather than lots of people doing training should just be a select few who train the entire staff team or any new staff members, this way a few people become good at actually teaching the people how to be effective staff. Rather than having 10 people training people who don't go in depth with the rules. Would allow for way more consistent and higher quality staff members I’m confused. Where are you getting this from? Lead team members are primarily responsible for training promoted/recruited staff. Not all admins volunteer to train staff but it’s an option for those keen to progress in ranks but the supervision is required to ensure the training is done properly. Not all lead team even train properly, Should be like 2-3 people who have an interview with community team members show casing their training skills. Oh right - I’m with you now. That’s a cool idea I suppose, lead team members could apply for a trainer role or something like that would let them train people. Only issue is, I can tell not a lot of people would volunteer for it Well you wouldn't know until you tried im sure a few people would apply for it, also If i was a community manager or owner of a server I would rather my staff team get the proper training even if it's only 1 person who can do the training sessions rather than having a bunch of people doing training all differently guess its just a matter of what they'd prefer quality or accessibility Good idea, but how to be objective, to judge who is good, and who is not, at training staff ? It's subtle and subjective. But overall, having one or two qualified LT members who would spend more time in training, and less in other tasks, would suit my taste to be honest ! The same way they would judge who would be a good lead team member or community manager? To train people how to do something effectively you need skills not everyone possesses an example would be social skills. They would do a pitch sort of thing where they would take the community team through their training program, they are the people who run the server I'm sure they're more than capable of telling if someone would be able to teach effectively after seeing their skills themselves Easier said than done. I don't think there is a ranking among LT members on each server. But in such a case, if a poor choice/decision is made on the trainer, it could affect lots of fresh staff members. I may be thinking way too much and far about this. Not sure what you mean about ranking among lead team servers but if someone is poor at training then they can have the privileges taken away just like any other rank and thats also the reason why each person who wants to be able to train new staff would have to do it infront of the community team so they can see if they have a good in depth training program I agree and get you on this one, once again I'm favorable about the idea. But then again, and I was myself HA for months on TTT, "spotting" a poor trainer is difficult. It takes time and, more importantly, several failed trainings to realize. What I meant by ranking, is the fact that it's even harder to determine who is better in training than the rest. The idea is nice and would benefit the LT, giving more specialized members. But the risks are high if not executed properly. I don't know if I make sense. if not, just forget about my comments, and have a nice evening not really any risk, if they leave it the way it is currently then any lead team can train weather they're bad or not this way they are atleast tested before given that privilege I don't see any problem with it at all You have a point. |
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I never liked the idea of people being trained in groups. The teamspeak channel idea is quite nice as well.
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Henny wrote:
I never liked the idea of people being trained in groups. The teamspeak channel idea is quite nice as well. Back in my day TTT handled trainings 1 on 1 TS spacer and things went well and I believe back then we had the most capable staff we have ever had. It allows the LT to get better touch with new recruits and ensures they know what they do I have experience of one situation in training multiple people at once and I could feel the quamity of the training go down the drain In my time we also had designated trainers. Some LT never trained or trained 1 guy every now and then so this policy would only bring good things |
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