exrobite wrote:
These were my own messages that I sent in the Lead Team Whatsapp regarding the hacking issue. From my own perspective, when Red says that the Lead Team told him hacking isn't a big problem, I can at least personally say that I think hacking isn't as big of a problem as people make it out to be.
You have failed to outline why hacking shouldn't carry a harsher punishment.
Most F1s are about RDM. A lot of the time, I get complaints from users that they made the F1 ages ago and that they've already been RDMed five times since they made the original one. Not just that, they also complain about the items lost by having been RDMed.
An irrelevant piece of purely subjective, anecdotal evidence.
In the end, it's simply a fact that hackers gain an unfair advantage over users. Not just that, there are plenty of hackers each day ruining the experience for others. However, looking purely at the issues that we have in the community, hacking is not one of the biggest problems we have.
The abunance of a certain form of rulebreak should not correlate to the punishment associated with it. I'd say murder is a lot less common than speeding, but you don't get a life sentence for going 30 in a 20 zone.
Losing an event or a raid to hackers feels bad, yeah, but getting RDMed and losing valuable items is an even bigger one.
Losing items to a rulebreaker is bad no matter what. The rulebreak itself has no bearing on this.
After all, when you encounter a hacker there was already a chance of you dying regardless of whether they're hacking or not.
What is your point here? The fact that they are hacking means that they have intentionally given themselves an unfair advantage over players. The consideration of any other outcome is moot because they are hacking and they have a completely unfair advantage.
It wouldn't even surprise me if a large portion of the hacking reports turn out to be false, although I have no numbers or facts to support that claim.
It is probably a given, yes, but the idea that has been put forward is to do with the punishment given to those proven to be hacking, therefore this point is also irrelevant.
That's a fair assessment - I understand that not everything I brought up was as relevant as it could have been.
As stated by earlier posts, I support a policy change, I simply disagree with the notion that's often stated that hackers are these "horrible users that deserve no mercy" kinda thing. Often times I see people shouting that they should be permanently banned or whatever, but it's simply a fact that you can do a lot of horrible shit in the community and still return after only a few months. Hacking should not be an exception to that.
I also disagree with the fact that users often go into long discussions about how we should treat hackers harsher, whilst general rulebreaks are a larger concern all over the community that in my honest opinion deserves more attention than it's currently getting. Perhaps not the best counter-argument to make against a hacking policy change, however as I stated I don't actually disagree with some sort of a change to the hacking policy to make hackers get away with less shit.