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TOPIC: [TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica...
[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246616
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i've literally never seen you actually play the game That's true, but he does not have to. he is still learning how to walk  |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246618
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YES,DAMN YES
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246619
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246644
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246650
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Don't see any reason why you should be denied. Your activity is great, you don't time farm for your unique way of playing and you are interactive with the community. I won't be there to vote but goodluck ! |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246651
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246655
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246664
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i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently
quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246683
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sorIe wrote:
i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246685
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Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? THIS IS FAX JUST ALLOF IT IS FAX |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246694
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Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played? i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246697
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Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
Richard had a significant past history with SSRP & was active in discussions regarding SSRP for a good while, his knowledge was built up over time, which is simply not the case here.i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? Staff isn't a matter of "we accept them and then they prove they're fit for the role", they need to 100% prove themselves first and this can be done in many more ways than just playing the game how it's meant to be played. When you don't actually play the server as intended whatsoever you don't demonstrate any knowledge of the rules or how the gamemode usually plays out, however you can still demonstrate knowledge by involving yourself in discussions regarding the gamemode & the rules, posting on appeals & punishment requests etc., if you're not willing to play out the gamemode how it commonly functions & demonstrate that you know how shit works via your gameplay & lack of punishment in gameplay time, then you need to prove yourself via another avenue. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246698
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Lewis_is_java wrote:
Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246699
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Kurze wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
there is a difference between standing there for 3 hours doing reports, and standing there for 3 hours doing nothing Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246701
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Chespin wrote:
Kurze wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Give the kid the chance to prove himself then instead of saying he doesn't know anything because he plays in a different way. Get on S1 right now and see him play normally as you all want him to play. Let him prove you wrong. Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. I CANT UNQUOTE THIS SHIT SO REPLY HERE v Then let him prove himself instead of saying he doesn't play so he doesn't know the rules. Get on the server now until Sunday to see him play like people want him to play. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246702
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Kurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
You're contradicting yourself in this post but whateveri'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you truly are so damn "baffled" by this and don't understand the possible problem with this way of playing, you must dig deeper buddy That being said TTT staff get accepted with "why the fuck not" mentality so I don't see why we shouldn't give finn a chance If he's a dogshit staff member he'll surely get demoted |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246704
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Gin wrote:
Kurze wrote:
If this gets accepted I'm sure that it will set a new precedent on how to become staffsorIe wrote:
You're contradicting yourself in this post but whateveri'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you truly are so damn "baffled" by this and don't understand the possible problem with this way of playing, you must dig deeper buddy That being said TTT staff get accepted with "why the fuck not" mentality so I don't see why we shouldn't give finn a chance If he's a dogshit staff member he'll surely get demoted Don't: play the game how it's supposed to be played, gain experience, set a good examlpe Do: stand on roof and do nothing omega funny |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246705
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Chespin wrote:
Kurze wrote:
Don’t assume by the way that they play that they don’t know the rules, from their app and scenario they included it doesn’t seem as tho they do have sufficient knowledge. I’d read their app and try to find any issues with it and also at the reports they are making/responding to look for any issues and then you can say that they don’t have enough knowledge of the rules. It’s a gmod server people can play it however they want and if they find it fun I really don’t see an issue with it Lewis_is_java wrote:
there is a difference between standing there for 3 hours doing reports, and standing there for 3 hours doing nothingKurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246706
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Maddox wrote:
Chespin wrote:
You don't see an issue? I'm sure his T buddies will disagree when they see one of their teamates is doing absolutely nothing to help win the round Kurze wrote:
Don’t assume by the way that they play that they don’t know the rules, from their app and scenario they included it doesn’t seem as tho they do have sufficient knowledge. I’d read their app and try to find any issues with it and also at the reports they are making/responding to look for any issues and then you can say that they don’t have enough knowledge of the rules. It’s a gmod server people can play it however they want and if they find it fun I really don’t see an issue with itLewis_is_java wrote:
there is a difference between standing there for 3 hours doing reports, and standing there for 3 hours doing nothingKurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. |
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[TTT Moderator] Fenris "Finn" Prisema's Applica... 3 years 9 months ago #1246707
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Lewis_is_java wrote:
Maddox wrote:
That isnt true, when finn is the T they nor.ally play towards the end of the round if their team is dependent on them, meaning if finn is the last one or another t buddy needs a revive he would do it, hes done it many times in the past and still does so, like he said in one of his posts, he doesn't delay the game at all when he is the t or detective. You also say people dont find it fun when finn sits around but somehow hes got all these people that actually do love to interact and play with him. He doesn't have to be shooting every single round to have some fun and the game mode is played as normal by other people, no one really complains on his gameplay ig so I dont think that it should concern us at all. Hes shown he has an understanding of rules as he normally reports rulebreakers, he understands scenarios (shown in his app) and isnt rude but is helpful, something we want out staff members to be. Chespin wrote:
You don't see an issue? I'm sure his T buddies will disagree when they see one of their teamates is doing absolutely nothing to help win the roundKurze wrote:
Don’t assume by the way that they play that they don’t know the rules, from their app and scenario they included it doesn’t seem as tho they do have sufficient knowledge. I’d read their app and try to find any issues with it and also at the reports they are making/responding to look for any issues and then you can say that they don’t have enough knowledge of the rules. It’s a gmod server people can play it however they want and if they find it fun I really don’t see an issue with itLewis_is_java wrote:
there is a difference between standing there for 3 hours doing reports, and standing there for 3 hours doing nothingKurze wrote:
sorIe wrote:
So are you saying don't play TTT how TTT is supposed to be played?i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure at one point i watched what you do and it's the furthest thing from playing the game, you can't just waltz into the commnuity and not actually play the game and say "hey i know how this gamemode works and i know the nuances of the rules well enough to enforce them to a good standard" because no one will buy it whatsoever unless you genuinely demonstrate your knowledge consistently quite frankly on the basis of that alone it's a sizeable risk to accept you for a staff position as it currently stands, and one that can easily be avoided Honestly, I see how you think this would apply here. Then again I merely don't see the reason why we should force a person to play in a certain way we want them to play so they can "prove" that they know how to play. For example: A user applies for staff and has 3 recent and gets denied for those recent. The same user then applies next week and those 3 recents are gone. This means that the user has had 2 weeks on no active/recent warnings. Now you could look at it that they played and learned to understand those rules and gained more knowledge and showed he has improved. At least that's what we like to believe. Now to the reality of these cases. They get accepted due to the fact they were careful enough and gained a tad of knowledge in the past 2 weeks to not get any warnings. And then gets accepted to yet make mistakes as a staff member because they played the game mode as they wanted. Now I don't see a difference between A person having 0 recents, amazing activity and a great application and has been staff in a different server. Now we cannot verify if that is true but why do we give a person who merely passed with 2 weeks of not getting warnings over someone who wants to play differently then others so they have fun on the server in their own way? Hell, the worst thing that can happen is that Finn gets caught out in the training itself and fails all the questions being asked by the trainer and needs to get demoted for not knowing the rules. I'm honestly a bit baffled by those who think that playing a server a different way than others do is a bad thing when going for staff. Look at Richard from SSRP. Did a good job at staffing yet didn't compete in anything going on yet knows the rules? If you want to play if differently while still following the rules sure. I can stand there for 3 hours and do my job and do reports and not play why would it show that I don't know the rules? Sure you can play more and understand the rules more but Fin does actually play. |
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