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TOPIC: [TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM

[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253258

Staff Member(s) Name: jam & kronem
Staff Member(s) SteamID:
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STEAM_0:1:4980326

What did the Staff Member(s) do?: Interpreting rules as they wish instead of interpreting them the right way
What server(s) was this on?: TTT
Evidence:

jam & Kronen claim that having DNA on an innocent player and watching the "victim" shoot a sniper towards a different part of the map is not enough proof to kill him

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Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old?

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253261

Its required to ask why an innocent was killed.	Insanity Offline Senior Boarder Hush-Hush. Posts: 507 Thanks received: 202 Karma: 0
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253263

fl1k wrote: Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old? no not once	Kronen Offline User is blocked Posts: 1825 Thanks received: 530 Karma: -101
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253264

You still got to ask why he killed him when body is id it in the rules mate.	God dammit Ross Offline Legendary Member Imagine taunting Posts: 1496 Thanks received: 960 Karma: -10
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253265

fl1k wrote: Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old? No such thing exists.	Lefty. Offline Legendary Member Legendary Member Posts: 3878 Thanks received: 1811 Karma: 46
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253267

Age rule is not a thing. And since some Innocents do rdm/ mistakes there is a rule that you need to ask why someone killed someone to prevent rdm chains. The two understand the rules. Maybe could've explained the rule a bit better, especially why it is in place tho.	Tom. Offline Legendary Member Posts: 876 Thanks received: 420 Karma: 10
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253268

you'll be respected only if you earn the respect	fl1k Offline User is blocked Posts: 211 Thanks received: 36 Karma: -6
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253270

God dammit Ross wrote: You still got to ask why he killed him when body is id it in the rules mate. quote the rule I can't find it thx	fl1k Offline User is blocked Posts: 211 Thanks received: 36 Karma: -6
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253271

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253272

Armarni4 wrote: Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old? Nope should be	fl1k Offline User is blocked Posts: 211 Thanks received: 36 Karma: -6
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253274

fl1k wrote: Armarni4 wrote: Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old? Nope should be No. If someone is mature enough to be staff he can be staff. If not not.	Tom. Offline Legendary Member Posts: 876 Thanks received: 420 Karma: 10
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253279

Tom. wrote:

fl1k wrote:

Armarni4 wrote:

Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old?

Nope

should be

No. If someone is mature enough to be staff he can be staff. If not not.

Yeah enjoy having mickey mouse sounding children demanding respect(they are staff man!! respect!!) from you while they loophole the punishment rules to the max because killing innos right next to you and then just going away + sniping players is not enough for you to kill them

Good!!

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253282

fl1k wrote: Armarni4 wrote: Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old? Nope should be Age really doesn’t change much it all depends on the person. I got moderator on SSRP at 14, now I’m Head Admin at 16. If someone young is inexperienced then they can learn, if they are immature then they probably won’t be staff for long.	Lefty. Offline Legendary Member Legendary Member Posts: 3878 Thanks received: 1811 Karma: 46
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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253283

fl1k wrote:

Tom. wrote:

fl1k wrote:

Armarni4 wrote:

Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old?

Nope

should be

No. If someone is mature enough to be staff he can be staff. If not not.

Yeah enjoy having mickey mouse sounding children demanding respect(they are staff man!! respect!!) from you while they loophole the punishment rules to the max because killing innos right next to you and then just going away + sniping players is not enough for you to kill them

Good!!

Grow up

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253284

fl1k wrote:

God dammit Ross wrote:

You still got to ask why he killed him when body is id it in the rules mate.

quote the rule I can't find it thx

In this situation you should ask why he killed him if the body was id and had DNA, give enough time for him explain leave and if his reason is valid leave him but if the body is un id and has DNA you can kill them for it.
I would say in this situation you should of been giving a verbal about it and been told to be more careful about it then being punish for something that you didn't know about.

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253286

God dammit Ross wrote:

fl1k wrote:

God dammit Ross wrote:

You still got to ask why he killed him when body is id it in the rules mate.

quote the rule I can't find it thx

In this situation you should ask why he killed him if the body was id and had DNA, give enough time for him explain leave and if his reason is valid leave him but if the body is un id and has DNA you can kill them for it.
I would say in this situation you should of been giving a verbal about it and been told to be more careful about it then being punish for something that you didn't know about.

add to rule "only applies when staff member is the one you are hunting" thx

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253289

Armarni4 wrote:

fl1k wrote:

Armarni4 wrote:

fl1k wrote:

Tom. wrote:

fl1k wrote:

Armarni4 wrote:

Also wasn't there a rule where staff must be 16+ years old?

Nope

should be

No. If someone is mature enough to be staff he can be staff. If not not.

Yeah enjoy having mickey mouse sounding children demanding respect(they are staff man!! respect!!) from you while they loophole the punishment rules to the max because killing innos right next to you and then just going away + sniping players is not enough for you to kill them

Good!!

I've not been rude to you once so don't be rude to me please you said "respect is earned " and I'm not being rude to you so I expect the same back.
That being said our Staff's voices however high or low should not get in the way of helping the server be better and stop rulebreakers.

I'm not talking to you at all, I said respect is earned when krogen said "disrespec staf membee"

Okay well I'm ending our little tango here as you clearly have something against me thanks !

Buddy I haven't mentioned you at all, you inserted yourself and started claiming I have something against you. I have nothing against you.

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[TTT STAFF TICKET] KRONEM & JAM 4 years 5 months ago #1253292

Hello fl1k,

I have looked into this report and had some level of discussion with the main admin involved (Kronen) and I will explain some things below.

When you get C4 from an IDENTIFIED innocent body, you can't use it as a KOS reason. You have no knowledge why the innocent was killed, you do not know whether or not it was a valid kill or something done by a traitor. You can use this as a suspicion, not as a KOS reason.
If you got DNA from an UNIDENTIFIED innocent, this can be used as a KOS reason, as the killer has made no attempt to identify the body.

TL;DR -
Identified body with DNA = SUS
Unidentified body with DNA = KOS

Kronen should have made a better attempt in the chat to explain this to you, rather than explain it once and instantly ask for the warn after you stated you don't understand.

I have spoken with both staff but not further action will be taken at this time. They didn't bend any rules to benefit them, they just chose not to explain it very well. This report is

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