TOPIC: [TTT] Demote Request - Kevin and Rittsu

Staff Member(s) Name: Kevin and Rittsu
Staff Member(s) SteamID: idk - they're your staff
Server - TTT Server 1
Time And Date Not sure probably around 20:30 GMT UK Time - 11/05/2020
Other Comments - I would like some action taken or refresher training to be undertaken by the mods Rittsu and Kevin

What Did The Staff Member(s) do?: Falsely punished me and refused to offer any assistance or any semblance of care for the server they are supposed to help protect

Story: I was gagged for 5 minutes by Kevin for saying another player's name on mic. The player in question was 'Negan' or similar. Without warning I was gagged for 5 minutes due to false racism. I am horrified at such an accusation as this is not indicative of my character and an incredibly serious allegation I do not take lightly. I did not say the word that was likely confused for the player in question's name which was noted by two players: Talking Dog From Family Guy and Nas. Additionally when I said the player in question's name on mic may I add I even suggested he change it. I attempted to contest this gagging via the chat as I had not been muted but Kevin denied this. Upon my ungagging, I contested this to the server via my mic. I complained to another mod Rittsu who refused to believe me citing what I believe to be worrisome dialogue, 'Well he's (Kevin) a mod and you're not'.

I found this to be an incredibly scary school of thought as I feel a server that is supposed to inspire fun is being ruled by two totalitarian mods who do not accurately reflect the good morals of fair play by the ZARP Gaming community. Fortunately I do not feel the behaviour of these two mods is representative of the other moderators but it has shaken my confidence that I would be wrongfully punished. I had to take ten minutes to distress from my gaming session which drastically affected my performance in subsequent games.

Proof: Chat logs, I have my own word and multiple witnesses including Talking Dog from Family Guy and Nas

You are proven innocent of this falsely accused act.

This man is not racist unlike Kevin

your own word and witnesses aren't valid forms of 'evidence'

Ok mate. This has been has been edited to include the chat logs as evidence givven the fact that independent witnesses are not an eligible form of evidence

I was in the server when this incident happened and although MrBossFTW’s in game performances can do with a bit of brushing up, I can certainly vouch for his good character. The other night I was on at the same time as MrBoss and a fairly large group of Americans logged into the server. They then starting throwing racist and homophobic slurs in the voice chat of the ZarpGaming server upsetting quite a few people. MrBossFTW instantly leapt the defence of the marginalised groups showing just how caring this individual is. To my knowledge these Americans remained unpunished but MrBossFTW really showed not just me but everyone else he would never say anything like that and stood up to a much larger, intimidating group which others would have shied away from. I know these accusations are false and I hope you take this post seriously. Accusations of racism can be deadly.

Honestly they shouldn’t punish racism if they’re not 100% sure what was said. However without evidence to prove anything against what was and wasn’t said then you are very unlikely to get this demote request accepted unless the mod admits they are in the wrong(let’s be honest not many people would do it if there word would be taken for fact with no evidence to disprove).

Tbh, I do believe you meant no ill intent however there’s not much that can be done as it’s user’s words against staff, personally it’s a

Handling, if you can send me the screenshot of the chat logs via discord that would be great!

Thanks Kyber mate. There were a lot of people online at the time and the majority of this exchange took place on mic. I'm grateful for your support as the whole ordeal has greatly effected my mental being. My thread was changed to a demote request rather than a complaint which ultimately I have decided to support. Failing this is there any form of training these two mods can enter? I feel a refresher on the rules may benefit these two moderators and improve the experience of everyone who loves the ZARP community. My main complaint comes from Kevin's unfair treatment and Rittsu's apathy and rudeness towards my plight. It's a shame that moderators are unwilling to take action amongst themselves as I feel this promotes elitism and makes feeling a sense of belonging within the ZARP community unattainable.

Hi Hazzanator, thanks for handling the situation. I do not have chat log as this was a few hours ago. Additionally my conversation with Rittsu was on mic exclusively which I believe was done intentionally on his part in order to leave no evidence. There should be a gag order attached to my profile however and hopefully this provides adequate timestamps etc. There should be some chatlogs with Kevin on the server however I have none to hand.

Snip3s_Sas wrote:
If u don't have any chat logs. That leaves u with no proof from what I have read. The only witness that could affect whether this gets accepted or denied would be a lead team+

^So if you remember whether a lead team+ was online, then I would message them.

^But if there was a lead team member, then probably they would have done something about it if it was not a valid reason or if it was

Hi mate, thanks for your reply. Is there anyway of accessing the console as I do not keep screenshots of chatlogs or voice recordings etc on the off chance I am targeted as this is highly illogical to me. To be fair I would just like to see some form of action taken against these mods, it doesn't have to be a demote but possibly some form of refresher training etc. I have had my confidence greatly shaken by this event as I am concerned for the nepotism displayed by the moderators on this server. I have also noticed other similar complaints on these mods elsewhere on these forums and feel surely some of these should be taken into account.

jenkshouse1 wrote:

I would also like to bring this to attention as I have looked through various posts relating to these two and see a general theme with Kevin being racist. Perhaps he was projecting onto me for his own flaws? Overall, I am disappointed with the response as I feel the mods are being shielded from responsibility when server logs should be readily accessible rather than the responsibility of the victim to provide.

Hello, firstly I was in the server during the time. Where the player name (Negan) and I do confirm that theres a possibility that there might be a misunderstanding. Just stating this out.

Thank you for coming forward mate. I deeply appreciate this.

I don't know if this could help you, but I have this short clip with the guy name Negan, and everyone was saying his name and saying "Oh you said the N word". At the end of the clip I was just teasing my staff member Jinx. But Jinx and I clearly understand that the player was not looping.

Good luck! (Besides I clearly believe this warning was a mistake, and I wish that this demotion request doesnt actually get them demoted x) )

but nobody bothered to change his name once it started causing issues?

Maybe because its a name? A character from the Walking dead for example

Chespin wrote:
There is no need for the name to be changed. It is NOT loopholing

IDK seems heavily suspect considering I was penalised for saying it. I even said shortly after maybe he should change his name.

Snip3s_Sas wrote: my point exactly, if people are being punished for saying the name, the name should be changed