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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937838

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I'd also like to point out, the only thing Tyler had to go off of was that cm banned person said it was you. Of course he's going to interrogate you.

Does that give him the right to call me multiple of times framing me without getting zero proof for the user to said it was me?? No it does not at all, he should of handled this situation way more respectfully and treated me the way any community member/staff should be treated and handle it in a more mature way.

I can admit, the whole calling thing is way off. But he is going to use different tactics to try and get you to confess, that's how interrogations work. Who else is he supposed to question if you're the only suspect? The whole attitude thing... You could also call it the "bad cop" strat. These are all valid techniques to get someone to confess to something (especially if theyre the only suspect at the time).

At the most, Tyler should just be talked to about how to handle situations and when it is appropriate to use the whatsapp calling feature. Other than that, him questioning you wasn't out of line. He wasn't framing you at all.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937839

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Its seriously about time we put this guy's everlasting power trip to an end. You are going where your good pal Doombringer went before you.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937848

After reading the comments i believe that the community can come forward and confront higher ups without feeling scared and can not worry about being supressed
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937852

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I can understand where you're coming from...

but like was this demote request actually necessary? You're a LT member with plenty of ways to get in contact with the other CMs, I feel like this is more for drama than anything.

We both know you know better and can do better.


Personally, if I was wronged by a highly ranked staff member I would want to bring that issue to light and make sure the community is well aware of the wrongdoings, handling it privately would seem more of a cover up rather than a situation being dealt with properly, my two cents, that's all.
Completely disregarding the content of this report, I personally disagree. Several people have already mentioned that this report should fit in with my plans to improve transparency, but a lead team member reporting a community team member publically like this isn't transparency.

There are plenty of ways people could be transparent about the outcome of reports such as these, including in private circles. If possible action is undertaken, an official announcement post could explain which action and why. It could also be in the weekly community team meeting outcome, like when Onion got reported back in January.

The CM team was already made aware of these concerns regarding Tyler days ago and we were already looking into this. With or without a public report, an outcome would have been reached and this could have been explained in countless ways to users if needed (and, yes, in this case it would be needed).
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937853

sounds like LT is just corrupt as fuck. Glad Raeker made CM to fix this shit. The community has already improved dramatically.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937856

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sounds like LT is just corrupt as fuck. Glad Raeker made CM to fix this shit. The community has already improved dramatically.
Not surprised about the lead team part
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937857

OnionRings wrote:
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I'd also like to point out, the only thing Tyler had to go off of was that cm banned person said it was you. Of course he's going to interrogate you.

Does that give him the right to call me multiple of times framing me without getting zero proof for the user to said it was me?? No it does not at all, he should of handled this situation way more respectfully and treated me the way any community member/staff should be treated and handle it in a more mature way.
Its sort of a way to check if your lying or not to see if you will admit it.
He says he has proof of you doing it, -If you did do it you might admit it.
Used to do it when i was staff hello
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937869

Now which SSRP lead team member was it that joined a populated channel and started interrogating me and making wild accusations that I had been caught and banned for hacking on some supposed alt that I apparently have, despite having no actual evidence it was me but instead because my name looked similar to his despite me not owning or having access to either of the steam_id's provided to me as my alleged accounts... It's right there on the tip of my tongue but I just can't place my finger on it.

In all seriousness though Tylers attitude really does need to be addressed as it gives him and the CM team a bad look in the eyes of new members
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937877

Nothing much to say

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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937881

I've heard stories about this and you seem to be innocent
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937882

It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937890

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It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937891

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Jailbreak is coming out everyone :woohoo:
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937894

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
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SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937895

Xeronise wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Mr Red X wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
I agree with Xeronise, if a CM continuesly pulls this shit on everyone, then it´s expected there will be a public demote request
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937896

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
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SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

If anything mate it's good for the community, here people can share their opinions on the situation and maybe negative situations that they have had with Tyler as well. Everybody else in the community deserves to know and have an opinion.
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937897

Ashur wrote:
Xeronise wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Mr Red X wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
I agree with Xeronise, if a CM continuesly pulls this shit on everyone, then it´s expected there will be a public demote request
Not, it should not be swept under the rug but do you see the CMs exposing the 2 new banned users? No! They notified us about their punishment after the investigation has finished but did not expose them. This is not the appropriate way of dealing with this
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937898

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Ashur wrote:
Xeronise wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Mr Red X wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
I agree with Xeronise, if a CM continuesly pulls this shit on everyone, then it´s expected there will be a public demote request
Not, it should not be swept under the rug but do you see the CMs exposing the 2 new banned users? No! They notified us about their punishment after the investigation has finished but did not expose them. This is not the appropriate way of dealing with this

Big difference between a COMMUNITY MANAGER and a User...
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937899

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Ashur wrote:
Xeronise wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Mr Red X wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
I agree with Xeronise, if a CM continuesly pulls this shit on everyone, then it´s expected there will be a public demote request
Not, it should not be swept under the rug but do you see the CMs exposing the 2 new banned users? No! They notified us about their punishment after the investigation has finished but did not expose them. This is not the appropriate way of dealing with this
Even though this is completely irrelevant the 2 cm banned users reasons were shown on the community team meeting outcome effectively "exposing them"
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[CM] Demote Request - Tyler Durden 6 years 6 months ago #937900

Narexa wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Ashur wrote:
Xeronise wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Mr Red X wrote:
SkeletonWarrior wrote:
It's understandable why you would want to report Tyler however at the end of the day, was it really necessary to make a forum post when you already contacted the CM team about it? The only use of this thread atm is to cause drama and arguments.
maybe to see community opinion ?
More like exposing Tyler to the community and getting him humilated. We can all agree that Tyler did something wrong same with SyStem, but neither of them deserve to be publicly exposed no matter what.

Thats the whole point, people need to know their CM is doing stuff like this and we need to know what kind of punishment he will get for doing this, because if this stays behind closed doors then we wont know what will happen to him and most likely will be swept under the rug.
I agree with Xeronise, if a CM continuesly pulls this shit on everyone, then it´s expected there will be a public demote request
Not, it should not be swept under the rug but do you see the CMs exposing the 2 new banned users? No! They notified us about their punishment after the investigation has finished but did not expose them. This is not the appropriate way of dealing with this

Big difference between a COMMUNITY MANAGER and a User...
Yes there is difference between the accuseds but both cases regarding to handling is the same. In both cases the CM investigates and votes and agrees on a verdict.
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