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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739484

Name - (What is the accused person's name?)
nikooo

Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?)
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1186376016

Evidence of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID)
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1186376016

Server - (What server was this on?)
S1

Time and date (CET) - (When did it happen?)
Just now

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Reason - (What rules did the person break?)
RDM

Story - (What happened?)
Killed my friends for fun (in discord with them) and nikoo randomly comes up and kills me

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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739506

If he was raiding the bank vault, I believe he is only allowed to KOS anyone entering the real vault itself or the ramp down maybe? Not sure but I guess so.

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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739536

Didnt kill your friends for fun lmao only killed you, was raiding the bank
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739537

Nikoo wrote:
Didnt kill your friends for fun lmao only killed you, was raiding the bank

I did kill them. You raided bank in the wrong way. You can only KOS behind bars.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739545

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Didnt kill your friends for fun lmao only killed you, was raiding the bank

I did kill them. You raided bank in the wrong way. You can only KOS behind bars.
I mean, there's technically no rule that states you can only KOS behind the bars. What you mean is that you can only kill in highly restricted areas, which is an area that practically starts behind the bars.

However, Niko was raiding the bank. Say you're going to 'rob' a bank with no consideration for other people's lives, would you really not kill a person that could potentially bother you later as you're walking by them (inside the bank, mind you)? I would personally class this scenario as a valid role-play reason, as it also does not interfere with any other rules (as far as I'm aware).

I could deny this report instantly, but I'd rather let a more experienced staff member deal with this one - I'm simply giving my personal input which I do hope will be taken into consideration.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739554

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Nikoo wrote:
Didnt kill your friends for fun lmao only killed you, was raiding the bank

I did kill them. You raided bank in the wrong way. You can only KOS behind bars.
I mean, there's technically no rule that states you can only KOS behind the bars. What you mean is that you can only kill in highly restricted areas, which is an area that practically starts behind the bars.

However, Niko was raiding the bank. Say you're going to 'rob' a bank with no consideration for other people's lives, would you really not kill a person that could potentially bother you later as you're walking by them (inside the bank, mind you)? I would personally class this scenario as a valid role-play reason, as it also does not interfere with any other rules (as far as I'm aware).

I could deny this report instantly, but I'd rather let a more experienced staff member deal with this one - I'm simply giving my personal input which I do hope will be taken into consideration.

So basically you can KOS all people outside of the bars, which would be RDM if there's people that has nothing to do with it. Every single Admin says you can not kill before you enter the area or damages/tries to damage the people inside. I'd class it as RDM.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739557

Raeker wrote:
Ezehzz wrote:
Nikoo wrote:
Didnt kill your friends for fun lmao only killed you, was raiding the bank

I did kill them. You raided bank in the wrong way. You can only KOS behind bars.
I mean, there's technically no rule that states you can only KOS behind the bars. What you mean is that you can only kill in highly restricted areas, which is an area that practically starts behind the bars.

However, Niko was raiding the bank. Say you're going to 'rob' a bank with no consideration for other people's lives, would you really not kill a person that could potentially bother you later as you're walking by them (inside the bank, mind you)? I would personally class this scenario as a valid role-play reason, as it also does not interfere with any other rules (as far as I'm aware).

I could deny this report instantly, but I'd rather let a more experienced staff member deal with this one - I'm simply giving my personal input which I do hope will be taken into consideration.

God damn, what a point you have there.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739558

Busy at the moment so I can't go to in depth, but as I see it you opened fire on the cop/those in the doorway. Niko had the intent to rob the bank and you have made yourself a threat by firing within the bank. He'd of been stupid to let you live when it was clear you were an aggressor in this case.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739563

ChummyXRay wrote:
Busy at the moment so I can't go to in depth, but as I see it you opened fire on the cop/those in the doorway. Niko had the intent to rob the bank and you have made yourself a threat by firing within the bank. He'd of been stupid to let you live when it was clear you were an aggressor in this case.

Even if I killed a cop, let's say if it was a real-life situation. A criminal wouldn't kill a guy for killing a cop since they're both doing crimes. Since criminals can't roleplay with criminals, i'd still say it's rdm, but. It's my opinion. I've always been in a situation where you gotta enter that area to be able to kill unless you're a cop.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739566

Ezehzz wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
Busy at the moment so I can't go to in depth, but as I see it you opened fire on the cop/those in the doorway. Niko had the intent to rob the bank and you have made yourself a threat by firing within the bank. He'd of been stupid to let you live when it was clear you were an aggressor in this case.

Even if I killed a cop, let's say if it was a real-life situation. A criminal wouldn't kill a guy for killing a cop since they're both doing crimes. Since criminals can't roleplay with criminals, i'd still say it's rdm, but. It's my opinion. I've always been in a situation where you gotta enter that area to be able to kill unless you're a cop.

If a separate criminal group decided to rob the bank already being robbed, they would kill you to take control as you are impeding their progress. By making yourself a threat and opening fire on the entrance being used you made yourself a target they had to take out. They are not going to give you the benefit of the doubt when their intent is to occupy and eliminate those within the bank that have the potential to end them. Least that's how I see it.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739567

If you watch the video very closely you can see you killed a cop apart of FA then there was a Triad member behind the cop so you could make a case that he felt threatened so a gang member(niko) was protecting and assisting him.
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739568

Derpy Chespin wrote:
If you watch the video very closely you can see you killed a cop apart of FA then there was a Triad member behind the cop so you could make a case that he felt threatened so a gang member(niko) was protecting and assisting him.

Even if I killed his gang member that was a cop, he can't roleplay with gangsters
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[SSRP Warn Request] nikooo 7 years 2 months ago #739569

Basically what Chummy says sums it all up - I forgot to mention (though I did intend for it) that agression is the key factor in this matter. You opened fire, Niko saw you as a threat.

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