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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234255

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This server needs more competition this is the biggest reason why its so boring and not enjoyable both for me and the people i play with, people hold billions in their bank and multiple items in their inv and they are not put to use.

If you're in the right gang you simply can farm scus all day without losing much and it gets boring after a while..

They should make a rule against alt accounts and make it so you can only ally with one gang.
Yeah I just hate when people mass farm SCU's
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234258

The money economy is fine now since this guy has it all now.




edit: boosterpacks are not a problem they actually help the server introduce more items that we are lacking people just mass hoard items and u wont see them in the economy for a while the printing did have an effect but it will even itself out
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234263

needs more money sinks, needs a revamp for the pd and bank rewards, rare items store needs a revamp, alts probably won't get banned because they boost the servercount tenfold everytime jayhouse bases which is the only thing keeping the server alive
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234264

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4) The idea that has been buried for a while because apparently it's unfeasible - ZARP Classic WITH a separate, fresh database.

I think everyone should just get together and start playing fp, I know it has been suggested before and people's resoponse is thats its dead but, it'll only be dead without players and nothing will change if the players dont. FP is effectively a classic server with a less used economy. If everyone who wanted zarp classic just strted playing on FP it would overtake the normal zarp servers easy.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234265

eceonnomy bad bye
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234269

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The money economy is fine now since this guy has it all now.




edit: boosterpacks are not a problem they actually help the server introduce more items that we are lacking people just mass hoard items and u wont see them in the economy for a while the printing did have an effect but it will even itself out

How many G-Juggs did Chute bribe you with, Sp00ns?

All jokes aside - I'd argue it's a neutral thing at best. It introduces more printers into the economy and trips/quads, which in turn creates a bigger money issue - but it also creates more items that players can freely toss around and it'll inevitably land on someone who will waste either the item randomly or in combat, or the money in a money sink.
Thus creating balance in a way.

Also, 117 billion dollars is disgusting. I like Smol, but that's really bad.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234271

I also like the idea of going back to FP. But it never seems to quite work out. Unfortunate.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234272

Father Watson wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
The money economy is fine now since this guy has it all now.




edit: boosterpacks are not a problem they actually help the server introduce more items that we are lacking people just mass hoard items and u wont see them in the economy for a while the printing did have an effect but it will even itself out

How many G-Juggs did Chute bribe you with, Sp00ns?

All jokes aside - I'd argue it's a neutral thing at best. It introduces more printers into the economy and trips/quads, which in turn creates a bigger money issue - but it also creates more items that players can freely toss around and it'll inevitably land on someone who will waste either the item randomly or in combat, or the money in a money sink.
Thus creating balance in a way.

Also, 117 billion dollars is disgusting. I like Smol, but that's really bad.

Not only his 117 billions that is disgusting. Many people roam around with 10s of billions and I´ve heard from people that they dont even want money when I am trying to buy something off them.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234273

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Father Watson wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
The money economy is fine now since this guy has it all now.




edit: boosterpacks are not a problem they actually help the server introduce more items that we are lacking people just mass hoard items and u wont see them in the economy for a while the printing did have an effect but it will even itself out

How many G-Juggs did Chute bribe you with, Sp00ns?

All jokes aside - I'd argue it's a neutral thing at best. It introduces more printers into the economy and trips/quads, which in turn creates a bigger money issue - but it also creates more items that players can freely toss around and it'll inevitably land on someone who will waste either the item randomly or in combat, or the money in a money sink.
Thus creating balance in a way.

Also, 117 billion dollars is disgusting. I like Smol, but that's really bad.

Not only his 117 billions that is disgusting. Many people roam around with 10s of billions and I´ve heard from people that they dont even want money when I am trying to buy something off them.

legit ran into this problem as well "i have enough money" like wtf?
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234274

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I also like the idea of going back to FP. But it never seems to quite work out. Unfortunate.
Everytime I try and play, either the server needs a restart due to the server being broken, and nothing being done for weeks, or it will literally be me sat on it for hours alone :S
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234276

Father Watson wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
The money economy is fine now since this guy has it all now.




edit: boosterpacks are not a problem they actually help the server introduce more items that we are lacking people just mass hoard items and u wont see them in the economy for a while the printing did have an effect but it will even itself out

How many G-Juggs did Chute bribe you with, Sp00ns?

All jokes aside - I'd argue it's a neutral thing at best. It introduces more printers into the economy and trips/quads, which in turn creates a bigger money issue - but it also creates more items that players can freely toss around and it'll inevitably land on someone who will waste either the item randomly or in combat, or the money in a money sink.
Thus creating balance in a way.

Also, 117 billion dollars is disgusting. I like Smol, but that's really bad.

there is alot of money but not alot of items unless there's an update it happens every time and nobody wants to sell either

also smol having 117b is purely from coinflipping the cash that was printed and winning it all.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234278

Father Watson wrote:
I also like the idea of going back to FP. But it never seems to quite work out. Unfortunate.
Come join, it wont come back if no one does anything!
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234280

This has been a fairly common occurrence, supposedly. But this is what I mean - people get enough money and suddenly the money is worthless because they don't put any value on it whatsoever. How're you supposed to put value on something that you can get billions of in a day?

Not exactly complaining about this part even though it contradicts me if I don't, but I remember just before this mass-printing occurred, people were saying that portals are valuable but that no-one buys them because they're too expensive and not quite as effective as needed. People were reluctantly offering me 3 bil at a stretch for an item that was supposedly 5.
After all this, I had someone approach me and offer me 6 bil for one right there on the spot. It's crazy because suddenly items that were near-unsellable before are becoming more sellable because people want the items more than the money.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234291

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What would people prefer?

1) Things to stay the same.

2) Alts to be removed.

3) More money sinks.

4) The idea that has been buried for a while because apparently it's unfeasible - ZARP Classic WITH a separate, fresh database.

5) Printers to be nerfed - maybe given a set time limit before they overheat and explode?

6) A combination of any of the above.

Well the first listed option should be out of the question.

As for the second one, I don't think that alternate accounts should be "fully" prohibited from the server. I doubt that at least allowing one would do much damage - Though more than one should not be allowed; This one ALT account could be used for mining (for example), whilst you are doing other stuff on the map/in-game, so you don't have to be looking at a red rock (Ruby) for hours on end.

Regarding the money sinks - Even though they were implemented months ago to reduce the amount of money that gets stuffed into the economy, I think that we can all agree that additional money sinks would be ideal because AFAIK and as far as I can see, the current ones don't suffice.

ZARP Classic with a fresh database would be brilliant, only if it was an actual server rathen than a topic of perpetual discussion.

As for your point about printers - IIRC, they were nerfed more than half a year ago (I may be wrong though), I seriously doubt that the Community Team would be willing to alternate them further, though some other limitations should exist to cut down the amount of SSRP $ that makes it's way into the economy - I'll respond to the thread with an additional reply if I get any (good) ideas.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234301

yes, lots of gaup = suit price go up
lots high price suits = bad
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234375

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I've put your suggestion in the original post of the thread. Let's hope it gains a bit of traction.

@Revine
You're right. Not only is the economy overwhelmingly intimidating to any new player, but all the weapons and suits - while cool concepts and are fun to mess with, make it extremely difficult for any new player to get an edge.

The other day I put a hit down on someone for 10 mil. Someone killed them, it was a new player and he then jumped about the place, screaming that he was rich. Do you remember the days when 10 mil felt like a lot of money? It's actually a really nice feeling, and not one you can get nowadays.
i would like to point out one thing please no one blasts with shit talking ... why doesnt everyone convert every item in their inventory to gems? And and just delete the gems? If you all of you really want a clear and clean new database aka zarp classic why not do that? If the owners don't want to do that why dont you?
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234376

Okay well to be fair whoever it was said it was Jay House / ME

I agree that something needs to be changed or the money sinks need to get a lot better.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234438

TheFierceOwl wrote:
Father Watson wrote:
Bunnyslippers69 wrote:
I've put your suggestion in the original post of the thread. Let's hope it gains a bit of traction.

@Revine
You're right. Not only is the economy overwhelmingly intimidating to any new player, but all the weapons and suits - while cool concepts and are fun to mess with, make it extremely difficult for any new player to get an edge.

The other day I put a hit down on someone for 10 mil. Someone killed them, it was a new player and he then jumped about the place, screaming that he was rich. Do you remember the days when 10 mil felt like a lot of money? It's actually a really nice feeling, and not one you can get nowadays.
i would like to point out one thing please no one blasts with shit talking ... why doesnt everyone convert every item in their inventory to gems? And and just delete the gems? If you all of you really want a clear and clean new database aka zarp classic why not do that? If the owners don't want to do that why dont you?

This... isn't the stupidest idea I've ever heard, actually. If players deleted even a small percentage of their items/cash, we would actually have a much better looking economy, at least for a while. Though it would mean everyone's hard work would be pretty much down the drain for those who spent ages working on getting a good amount of wealth.
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234439

TheFierceOwl wrote:
Father Watson wrote:
Bunnyslippers69 wrote:
I've put your suggestion in the original post of the thread. Let's hope it gains a bit of traction.

@Revine
You're right. Not only is the economy overwhelmingly intimidating to any new player, but all the weapons and suits - while cool concepts and are fun to mess with, make it extremely difficult for any new player to get an edge.

The other day I put a hit down on someone for 10 mil. Someone killed them, it was a new player and he then jumped about the place, screaming that he was rich. Do you remember the days when 10 mil felt like a lot of money? It's actually a really nice feeling, and not one you can get nowadays.
i would like to point out one thing please no one blasts with shit talking ... why doesnt everyone convert every item in their inventory to gems? And and just delete the gems? If you all of you really want a clear and clean new database aka zarp classic why not do that? If the owners don't want to do that why dont you?
It's a nice idea but it's like asking meth heads to dump their meth in the 1st river they see
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The Economy 4 years 5 months ago #1234459

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TheFierceOwl wrote:
Father Watson wrote:
Bunnyslippers69 wrote:
I've put your suggestion in the original post of the thread. Let's hope it gains a bit of traction.

@Revine
You're right. Not only is the economy overwhelmingly intimidating to any new player, but all the weapons and suits - while cool concepts and are fun to mess with, make it extremely difficult for any new player to get an edge.

The other day I put a hit down on someone for 10 mil. Someone killed them, it was a new player and he then jumped about the place, screaming that he was rich. Do you remember the days when 10 mil felt like a lot of money? It's actually a really nice feeling, and not one you can get nowadays.
i would like to point out one thing please no one blasts with shit talking ... why doesnt everyone convert every item in their inventory to gems? And and just delete the gems? If you all of you really want a clear and clean new database aka zarp classic why not do that? If the owners don't want to do that why dont you?
It's a nice idea but it's like asking meth heads to dump their meth in the 1st river they see

so true
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