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To the chosen one! 7 years 2 months ago #919061

Plankton wrote:

dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Clarky wrote:

Hacking policy can be changed when the new CM gets it without a democratic vote in the meeting, the problem is after those 30 days it can be changed back by a vote

Get em all banned in 30 days then Homie.

Raeker wrote:

I understand people's complaints regarding hackers, but I refuse to change the policy at this current time. It is for that reason that I haven't added it to my application.

Chute and EMP carefully explained one time why the hacking policy is this specific way. I don't fully agree with it, but I understand the decision. I have enougg respect for both of them to not say "Fuck you, I'm changing it anyway."

What I cannot understand though is why we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination. It seems so stupid to immediately ban someone for saying a bad word (and they might not even know it isn't allowed, some other Gmod communities are fine with it) yet to let hackers walk around freely.

I'm all for stricter punishments in some regard. I also believe staff should try to be more careful with who they vote for within meetings - technically speaking you do actually get a voluntary job that has an actual effect on the people playing on the server.

As far as servers are concerned though, I disagree. SSRP is under EMP's and Chute's discretion. They'll code the updates for it. However other servers have their own respective coders (mostly). Since everyone primarily codes for the servers they want to code on, focussing on less servers won't actually make much of a difference.

I fully agree with the second point though. #KickOutTheWankStains

That policy as caused more issues than it’s worth oh and that’s what they’re wanting from you they want to give you a chance to put things the way YOU think they should be. If your just going to bow down and follow them then what’s the point? They want new ideas and someone to change what they think is wrong so they can see how it works out.
I mean it makes zero difference to me I just think deep down that them things are the key issues.

Your a good guy regardless of what you do if you get it and it’s no sweat of my shoulders.

The community doesn't know what it wants, Vanilla SSRP would kill zarp just how it did with FP , sometimes it's better ignore the community if you think it will turn out better. Also, removing content is dumb from every aspect.
Imo, your ideas are not very well thought out , Red.

Do you really believe removing one server of THREE to replace it with something a lot of people have been wanting to have is a bad idea ? The content is still there on the other TWO server.

Server 2 has seen many players whenever SSRP's basing is alive, because it's the go-to server for good connection, at least semi-reliable hitboxes and good basing options. It's map needs to get smaller, since the outer rim of the map is relatively useless, but other than that it's a pretty good server.
Some people do not have really good internet connections and they play with 130~ ping on S1 and 110~ on S2. Also, having a server without as many people means you can more easily base and still get some profit (which is very important for starting players, since they do not have as good gear, and they wouldn't be as used to defending as other people already in the server with similar gear are.
So yes, I think it's a terrible idea, and I probably can add more to this than this list.

I know your new to the community but server 2 has been dead for 2 years plus now

I wasn’t even going to respond to him he’s one of the people that just bitch and don’t do fuck all about it. You have put so much time in to ZARP staffing and running servers and then some dick comes along that’s made a couple dozen shit posts and thinks he knows best.

His point was server two is a place for new players to get money but replacing it with a new start would do the same think so clearly he’s just chatting shit cause he wants to be noticed.

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To the chosen one! 7 years 2 months ago #919066

Plankton wrote:

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dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Clarky wrote:

Hacking policy can be changed when the new CM gets it without a democratic vote in the meeting, the problem is after those 30 days it can be changed back by a vote

Get em all banned in 30 days then Homie.

Raeker wrote:

I understand people's complaints regarding hackers, but I refuse to change the policy at this current time. It is for that reason that I haven't added it to my application.

Chute and EMP carefully explained one time why the hacking policy is this specific way. I don't fully agree with it, but I understand the decision. I have enougg respect for both of them to not say "Fuck you, I'm changing it anyway."

What I cannot understand though is why we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination. It seems so stupid to immediately ban someone for saying a bad word (and they might not even know it isn't allowed, some other Gmod communities are fine with it) yet to let hackers walk around freely.

I'm all for stricter punishments in some regard. I also believe staff should try to be more careful with who they vote for within meetings - technically speaking you do actually get a voluntary job that has an actual effect on the people playing on the server.

As far as servers are concerned though, I disagree. SSRP is under EMP's and Chute's discretion. They'll code the updates for it. However other servers have their own respective coders (mostly). Since everyone primarily codes for the servers they want to code on, focussing on less servers won't actually make much of a difference.

I fully agree with the second point though. #KickOutTheWankStains

That policy as caused more issues than it’s worth oh and that’s what they’re wanting from you they want to give you a chance to put things the way YOU think they should be. If your just going to bow down and follow them then what’s the point? They want new ideas and someone to change what they think is wrong so they can see how it works out.
I mean it makes zero difference to me I just think deep down that them things are the key issues.

Your a good guy regardless of what you do if you get it and it’s no sweat of my shoulders.

The community doesn't know what it wants, Vanilla SSRP would kill zarp just how it did with FP , sometimes it's better ignore the community if you think it will turn out better. Also, removing content is dumb from every aspect.
Imo, your ideas are not very well thought out , Red.

Do you really believe removing one server of THREE to replace it with something a lot of people have been wanting to have is a bad idea ? The content is still there on the other TWO server.

Server 2 has seen many players whenever SSRP's basing is alive, because it's the go-to server for good connection, at least semi-reliable hitboxes and good basing options. It's map needs to get smaller, since the outer rim of the map is relatively useless, but other than that it's a pretty good server.
Some people do not have really good internet connections and they play with 130~ ping on S1 and 110~ on S2. Also, having a server without as many people means you can more easily base and still get some profit (which is very important for starting players, since they do not have as good gear, and they wouldn't be as used to defending as other people already in the server with similar gear are.
So yes, I think it's a terrible idea, and I probably can add more to this than this list.

I know your new to the community but server 2 has been dead for 2 years plus now

I think you guys are failing to understand what dankek is saying, I don't agree or disagree with him but he is saying that S2 serves a purpose which is to promote basing in a larger map and to help out new players since it has a lower playerbase than S1 which is even more spread out.

He is also saying that this purpose attracts players to that server due to its larger map and moneymaking capabilities, hence its playerbase is reliant on the overall playerbase of SSRP. You can see that all 3 servers tend to rise in players simultaneously when they do and likewise they all tend to fall in players simultaneously.

Sure a reset vanilla SSRP is what the community wants right now and I've promoted it in the past and I still want it to be honest but it may not solve the problem in the long term. The new players who join in the startup will have a better chance yes, but once they all get rich again and stuff like M202s are in full supply it will still be very difficult for new players to get started. But that is simply the nature of servers including a progression system and that's the reason people even want to play these servers in the first place. Albeit the vanilla aspect of the server means that since you don't have big op fuck off suits and handcannons that destroy entire bases in 3 clicks it will still be much easier for new players than it is now.

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To the chosen one! 7 years 2 months ago #919149

474 Denis wrote:

Plankton wrote:

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dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Clarky wrote:

Hacking policy can be changed when the new CM gets it without a democratic vote in the meeting, the problem is after those 30 days it can be changed back by a vote

Get em all banned in 30 days then Homie.

Raeker wrote:

I understand people's complaints regarding hackers, but I refuse to change the policy at this current time. It is for that reason that I haven't added it to my application.

Chute and EMP carefully explained one time why the hacking policy is this specific way. I don't fully agree with it, but I understand the decision. I have enougg respect for both of them to not say "Fuck you, I'm changing it anyway."

What I cannot understand though is why we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination. It seems so stupid to immediately ban someone for saying a bad word (and they might not even know it isn't allowed, some other Gmod communities are fine with it) yet to let hackers walk around freely.

I'm all for stricter punishments in some regard. I also believe staff should try to be more careful with who they vote for within meetings - technically speaking you do actually get a voluntary job that has an actual effect on the people playing on the server.

As far as servers are concerned though, I disagree. SSRP is under EMP's and Chute's discretion. They'll code the updates for it. However other servers have their own respective coders (mostly). Since everyone primarily codes for the servers they want to code on, focussing on less servers won't actually make much of a difference.

I fully agree with the second point though. #KickOutTheWankStains

That policy as caused more issues than it’s worth oh and that’s what they’re wanting from you they want to give you a chance to put things the way YOU think they should be. If your just going to bow down and follow them then what’s the point? They want new ideas and someone to change what they think is wrong so they can see how it works out.
I mean it makes zero difference to me I just think deep down that them things are the key issues.

Your a good guy regardless of what you do if you get it and it’s no sweat of my shoulders.

The community doesn't know what it wants, Vanilla SSRP would kill zarp just how it did with FP , sometimes it's better ignore the community if you think it will turn out better. Also, removing content is dumb from every aspect.
Imo, your ideas are not very well thought out , Red.

Do you really believe removing one server of THREE to replace it with something a lot of people have been wanting to have is a bad idea ? The content is still there on the other TWO server.

Server 2 has seen many players whenever SSRP's basing is alive, because it's the go-to server for good connection, at least semi-reliable hitboxes and good basing options. It's map needs to get smaller, since the outer rim of the map is relatively useless, but other than that it's a pretty good server.
Some people do not have really good internet connections and they play with 130~ ping on S1 and 110~ on S2. Also, having a server without as many people means you can more easily base and still get some profit (which is very important for starting players, since they do not have as good gear, and they wouldn't be as used to defending as other people already in the server with similar gear are.
So yes, I think it's a terrible idea, and I probably can add more to this than this list.

I know your new to the community but server 2 has been dead for 2 years plus now

I think you guys are failing to understand what dankek is saying, I don't agree or disagree with him but he is saying that S2 serves a purpose which is to promote basing in a larger map and to help out new players since it has a lower playerbase than S1 which is even more spread out.

He is also saying that this purpose attracts players to that server due to its larger map and moneymaking capabilities, hence its playerbase is reliant on the overall playerbase of SSRP. You can see that all 3 servers tend to rise in players simultaneously when they do and likewise they all tend to fall in players simultaneously.

Thanks for clarifying what I'm saying, I guess some people would rather call me a "fucking idiot" in an indirect reply and cry about me, rather than actually addressing the points I've made. Never knew I'd have to write a 300 word post in order to reply to a useless topic like this one, so people like Red can understand what I'm saying.

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To the chosen one! 7 years 2 months ago #919399

474 Denis wrote:

Plankton wrote:

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dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

dankek wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Clarky wrote:

Hacking policy can be changed when the new CM gets it without a democratic vote in the meeting, the problem is after those 30 days it can be changed back by a vote

Get em all banned in 30 days then Homie.

Raeker wrote:

I understand people's complaints regarding hackers, but I refuse to change the policy at this current time. It is for that reason that I haven't added it to my application.

Chute and EMP carefully explained one time why the hacking policy is this specific way. I don't fully agree with it, but I understand the decision. I have enougg respect for both of them to not say "Fuck you, I'm changing it anyway."

What I cannot understand though is why we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination. It seems so stupid to immediately ban someone for saying a bad word (and they might not even know it isn't allowed, some other Gmod communities are fine with it) yet to let hackers walk around freely.

I'm all for stricter punishments in some regard. I also believe staff should try to be more careful with who they vote for within meetings - technically speaking you do actually get a voluntary job that has an actual effect on the people playing on the server.

As far as servers are concerned though, I disagree. SSRP is under EMP's and Chute's discretion. They'll code the updates for it. However other servers have their own respective coders (mostly). Since everyone primarily codes for the servers they want to code on, focussing on less servers won't actually make much of a difference.

I fully agree with the second point though. #KickOutTheWankStains

That policy as caused more issues than it’s worth oh and that’s what they’re wanting from you they want to give you a chance to put things the way YOU think they should be. If your just going to bow down and follow them then what’s the point? They want new ideas and someone to change what they think is wrong so they can see how it works out.
I mean it makes zero difference to me I just think deep down that them things are the key issues.

Your a good guy regardless of what you do if you get it and it’s no sweat of my shoulders.

The community doesn't know what it wants, Vanilla SSRP would kill zarp just how it did with FP , sometimes it's better ignore the community if you think it will turn out better. Also, removing content is dumb from every aspect.
Imo, your ideas are not very well thought out , Red.

Do you really believe removing one server of THREE to replace it with something a lot of people have been wanting to have is a bad idea ? The content is still there on the other TWO server.

Server 2 has seen many players whenever SSRP's basing is alive, because it's the go-to server for good connection, at least semi-reliable hitboxes and good basing options. It's map needs to get smaller, since the outer rim of the map is relatively useless, but other than that it's a pretty good server.
Some people do not have really good internet connections and they play with 130~ ping on S1 and 110~ on S2. Also, having a server without as many people means you can more easily base and still get some profit (which is very important for starting players, since they do not have as good gear, and they wouldn't be as used to defending as other people already in the server with similar gear are.
So yes, I think it's a terrible idea, and I probably can add more to this than this list.

I know your new to the community but server 2 has been dead for 2 years plus now

I think you guys are failing to understand what dankek is saying, I don't agree or disagree with him but he is saying that S2 serves a purpose which is to promote basing in a larger map and to help out new players since it has a lower playerbase than S1 which is even more spread out.

He is also saying that this purpose attracts players to that server due to its larger map and moneymaking capabilities, hence its playerbase is reliant on the overall playerbase of SSRP. You can see that all 3 servers tend to rise in players simultaneously when they do and likewise they all tend to fall in players simultaneously.

Sure a reset vanilla SSRP is what the community wants right now and I've promoted it in the past and I still want it to be honest but it may not solve the problem in the long term. The new players who join in the startup will have a better chance yes, but once they all get rich again and stuff like M202s are in full supply it will still be very difficult for new players to get started. But that is simply the nature of servers including a progression system and that's the reason people even want to play these servers in the first place. Albeit the vanilla aspect of the server means that since you don't have big op fuck off suits and handcannons that destroy entire bases in 3 clicks it will still be much easier for new players than it is now.

No, server 2's purpose is to afk mine and nuke buddy.

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To the chosen one! 7 years 2 months ago #919479