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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157864

Name - VanioVanio
STEAM-ID - VanioVanio
Admins name - Niko (i don't remember his last name
Reason - Disrespect Racism
Server - Garry's Mod Deathrun
Time - Pernament banned
Proof - I have 2 friends on Steam who saw everything. I didn't take screenshot, because I didn't know it's gonna end up like this.
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So hi.. I was just playing normal. Then one player came and started discussion about racism. When he said that he thinks that the N word isn't racist the Admin : Nico said without an argument that he will pernament ban him. I think that was wrong and joined the " discussion''. So me and that other player gave valid arguments taken from real sourcese (not Wikipedia). The admin wasn't saying anything. The next thing I've seen : You are pernamently banned. Reasons : Disrespect and Racism. I was like daaaamn. Because when we were discussing withour racism, some kid said : F*ck you retarded motherfuc*er. I said to the admin : Em, shouldn't you do something about that. And that was where i got banned. I had friend in the server so i asked him what is going on with the discussion. He said that the admin without any arguments is saying that he is going to ban all who are saying something about the N word. I dont' have words. I was liking the server. The skins, the taunts, the players, everything... But after that even, if i wasn't banned i wouldn't play on this server. So that is all.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157865

witnesses don't count you need solid proof which you don't have
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157870

You don't need proof for an unban.
Your steam ID isn't your name; steamidfinder.com

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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157873

STEAM_0:1:82660798 Is my ID. And about the witness. How the f i was supposed to know that i will get banned to get proof... Logic.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157883

The n word is considered racism on the zarp servers.
Lets either wait for a reply from Nico or until another staffmember has spoken to Nico about this.
Im sorry I cannot help you at the moment, but im nowhere near a pc.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157884

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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157888

We have been dealing with racism all night. So therefor we decided to make it easier on us as there are 3 staff in a nearly full server we would instantly ban people who are clearly being racist.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157889

Well that seems both pretty disrespectful and racist to me.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157893

Well I'm sure my opinion on this doesn't really matter but as his lawyer I have to say that he didn't do that with the intention of hurting nor Nico's nor KingOdSayians feelings.

Yes that is REALLY disrespectful but he was just mad with what the admins were saying and he just said that with no intention of being disrespectful or racist (I asume)

I'm sorry for my client's attitude but please give him a second chance, he is still pretty new to this community and he was enjoying it quite a lot, don't ruin the fun of this poor man c':
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157894

BlueMoon wrote:
Well I'm sure my opinion on this doesn't really matter but as his lawyer I have to say that he didn't do that with the intention of hurting nor Nico's nor KingOdSayians feelings.

Yes that is REALLY disrespectful but he was just mad with what the admins were saying and he just said that with no intention of being disrespectful or racist (I asume)

I'm sorry for my client's attitude but please give him a second chance, he is still pretty new to this community and he was enjoying it quite a lot, don't ruin the fun of this poor man c':

He is ruining it for himself with that attitude.

Im sure someone will speak to Nico and post a verdict sometime soon.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157895

About the picture ye. I was swearing. You know why ? Becauase one man was just sharing his opinion on racism, then some kid comes and tell him to fuk off motherfuker. Plus the kid was really saying the N word as an insult. Why the admins didn't do something ? Somebody before that called that man retarded bit*h. Why didn't someone do something. When i asked you why do you think the N word is racist you muted me. I reconnected i was just gonna write why you muted me. Then this kid started swearing. I was really angry and here the N word is used ironically to show i don't care, if i use it even im white.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157896

VanioVanio wrote:
But after that even, if i wasn't banned i wouldn't play on this server. So that is all.
Why are you making a ban appeal if you aren't even going to play on the server?
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157900

Because tbh i was thinking that you are just going to delete the thread and everything. I wouldn't play in the server, because the admins. It just .. If you readed the previous post that is the reason i just don't want anymore to play. Just as i said i love everything other in this server. I started yesterday and i was very happy with it. I have made some friends there. The players are friendly and everything. I just was thinking if the admin ban people when he can't answer i don't want to play. If you unban me i would play, because the server was fun. If my ban stays i will just find another server. :)
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157901

VanioVanio wrote:
About the picture ye. I was swearing. You know why ? Becauase one man was just sharing his opinion on racism, then some kid comes and tell him to fuk off motherfuker. Plus the kid was really saying the N word as an insult. Why the admins didn't do something ? Somebody before that called that man retarded bit*h. Why didn't someone do something. When i asked you why do you think the N word is racist you muted me. I reconnected i was just gonna write why you muted me. Then this kid started swearing. I was really angry and here the N word is used ironically to show i don't care, if i use it even im white.

Im just going to repeat myself. The server was nearly full, Me and Nico where both having to deal with voice chat, All the stuff happening in game and everything that was being posted in the chat. If we saw it we would have dealt with it instantly but with people like you disrespecting others it's hard to be able to notice everything that happens in game.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157902

Ye i understand. I agree the server was full everybody was writing or talking something. Well here i agree with you. But with pernament ban and not 1 day ?
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157904

VanioVanio wrote:
Ye i understand. I agree the server was full everybody was writing or talking something. Well here i agree with you. But with pernament ban and not 1 day ?

Because your words were too heavy.

You and your friends were just making fun of server and staff you were being racist and we had to deal with it all night we were just 2 person (Remixful joined later I banned you) I could finish dealing with these guys like 30 mins ago Theres no way I can forgive you if I'm going to give the last decision I'll deny it if they you ahve a chance only if they unban you without asking me.

and lets find the lies in this appeal
VanioVanio wrote:
Nico said without an argument that he will pernament ban him.

I've never said I'm going to ban him (Guy's name was T-Bag
VanioVanio wrote:
He said that the admin without any arguments is saying that he is going to ban all who are saying something about the N word.

-First of all I havent said I'm going to ban them I said I'm going to mute+warn them
-Second I havent said "I'm going to warn all who are saying something aobut the N Word I said I'm going to warn all WHO uses the N Word,

N Word is a racist Word so I can do that
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157905

I said it in voice chat and wrote it on chat. If you are racist you will be banned.
I did not ban you I was only there. Nico thought that a perma ban was the right punishment.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157906

VanioVanio wrote:
Ye i understand. I agree the server was full everybody was writing or talking something. Well here i agree with you. But with pernament ban and not 1 day ?

When there is a lack of staff in a full server, sometimes we need to push to the limits and ban everyone that is disrespecting the rules. It's a lot of stress to deal with everyone specially in a situation like it was today. A lot of things were going on in the voice and in written chat, and staff can't handle it all. I find this tactic really useful, and I had to be extreme many times as an admin/mod in some servers where i was alone and server was full, if someone is being disrespectful to the rules then I will instantly kick him/her, if they join back and repeat, then ban for some hours. If the situation is something like today, I' would instantly ban for 2 hours or more. The perma ban isn't really needed, something like 1 day is reasonable and 1 week if the player was...well.. that disrespectful.

I still think he needs a second try, if this situation repeats, then all I gotta say is good luck with finding another server as good as this one community wide.
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157909

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Theres no way I can forgive you if I'm going to give the last decision I'll deny it if they you ahve a chance only if they unban you without asking me.

Nico, I am sure you are mad at him for what he said, I would be a little bit too but not as much, because I understand his point of view, he is not one of those trolls that joins the server just to make fun of staff and other players, he is an innocent player that just so happened to be on at the wrong place at the wrong time. I am 100% sure this is not going to happen again, and if it does, then I'll quit my job as his lawyer, and I woun't try helping him out on another situation like this. Please I'm sure he is not going to disappoint you or anyone else :(
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Why was I banned ? 9 years 4 months ago #157911

BlueMoon wrote:
Nico Robin wrote:
Theres no way I can forgive you if I'm going to give the last decision I'll deny it if they you ahve a chance only if they unban you without asking me.

Nico, I am sure you are mad at him for what he said, I would be a little bit too but not as much, because I understand his point of view, he is not one of those trolls that joins the server just to make fun of staff and other players, he is an innocent player that just so happened to be on at the wrong place at the wrong time. I am 100% sure this is not going to happen again, and if it does, then I'll quit my job as his lawyer, and I woun't try helping him out on another situation like this. Please I'm sure he is not going to disappoint you or anyone else :(

You say he has been at the wrong place at wrong time but its not right like all we staff members do he could prevent himself from doing that disrespect and racism.

If he really likes this server he wouldnt do these things in the first place
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