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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242679

Name - What is your in-game name?
Nura
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:0:90296295
Staff Members Name - Who warned you?
Matt (STEAM_0:0:177633343)
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the punishment(s)?
Hacking
Server - Which server did this occur on?
TTT server no idea which server it is so here's the ip address of that server ---> IP: 54.36.229.194
Story/Situation - What happened?
I was informed kindly by Matt before he warned me that the majority of the staff has reached the conclusion that I'm hacking. This decision was reached upon reviewing a video footage of me playing.
Exo also asked me in the past if I was indeed hacking and I told him that I wasn't which is true.
Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)?
I'm guessing this is the section where i try to explain myself??????

Here's a video of me uninstalling gmod, reinstalling it and playing couple rounds of good old TTT.


Since the video ended up being 25gb i had to compress it to 30fps but if you change the speed of the video to 1.20 it should even it out a bit. Also I suggest slowing down the speed to 0.20 when you believe it's a bs kill. If you do that you will find out that most of the times i either aim past the person or aim not 100% on their actual head or torso. Which if i was using aimbot would be the case.

I would also like to point out that if i indeed had some sort of flick aimbot. You would find me flicking onto corpses of the dead players. As most aimbots are unable to determine which players are alive which are not. Most of them work on RGB and some other tricks.


If even after all this you still believe I have aimbot or I am hacking in some way or form. I can try streaming me launching gmod and you can just ask me to show you everything running on the pc or ask me questions during the stream or something like that.... I'm literally running out of ideas how to prove i'm innocent.
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Last Edit: 4 years 5 months ago by Nurarihyon. Reason: Human Error of pressing Enter before the appeal was finish.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242680

This is a case of Admins thinking they're LT, If you think someone is hacking then ask LT to come on to anticheat.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242681

There is nothing to prove to show that you were not hacking. From reading this I guess that had sufficient evidence to vote on this during their lead team meeting. So whatever proof that had much of shown your clearly cheating. You’ve come on here with your hour+ proof in which proves nothing at all as you could of been hacking like 2 days ago and not hacking in the current game session.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242683

someone probably recorded you hacking and they watched that during the lead team meeting, your better off asking them for it then trying to convince them you're not by explaining why you do the things in the video
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242684

I disagree with your opinion

1. if i uninstall gmod.. reinstall it again that will remove and possible scripts.
2. I showed all the programs running in the background
3. If i reinstalled gmod, showed all my background applications which are running and i still preform at the same level and i still get the same flicks and kills than that proves i am not hacking. I'm just good at flicking and sniping.
4. During that recording people were accusing me of Hacking again. As Nay told me during the recording.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242685

Maddox wrote:
someone probably recorded you hacking and they watched that during the lead team meeting, your better off asking them for it then trying to convince them you're not by explaining why you do the things in the video


Matt told me I could appeal against the warning
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242686

Never mind old man kurze well be handling this appeal
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242687

We all agreed we had enough evidence to punish you for hacking. The evidence was clear you were indeed clearly cheating.

You scope in and look at them, you then scope out and shoot them instantly in the head. (This is not the video you've uploaded) Now this can be done once or twice if lucky. But the number of things you've clearly done with the evidence provided over a week or two was enough to punish you for it.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242688

I'll be overruling Ross his decision to handle this and i'll handle this with LT.


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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242689

Kurze wrote:
We all agreed we had enough evidence to punish you for hacking. The evidence was clear you were indeed clearly cheating.

You scope in and look at them, you then scope out and shoot them instantly in the head. (This is not the video you've uploaded) Now this can be done once or twice if lucky. But the number of things you've clearly done with the evidence provided over a week or two was enough to punish you for it.

I never heard of such a cheat.... that would allow for that to happen.

What i'm actually doing is i'm shooting them while scoped. The moment i click the shoot button i press my bind to go to my previous weapon twice. Once to go back to being holstered and than from being holstered back to my sniper. It's a habit i developed while playing csgo with the awp. If it's done quickly enough it would look like what you have described.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242690

Kurze wrote:
We all agreed we had enough evidence to punish you for hacking. The evidence was clear you were indeed clearly cheating.

You scope in and look at them, you then scope out and shoot them instantly in the head. (This is not the video you've uploaded) Now this can be done once or twice if lucky. But the number of things you've clearly done with the evidence provided over a week or two was enough to punish you for it.
assuming is the only evidence and obviously i lack info, it seems inconclusive as you can pretty consistently do this as it doesnt displace your crosshair whatsoever when you scope in/out so you could scope in, aim at a target, then scope out and shoot at the exact point where you aimed

also pretty sure there are no inaccuracy mechanics in m9k with snipers
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242691

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Kurze wrote:
We all agreed we had enough evidence to punish you for hacking. The evidence was clear you were indeed clearly cheating.

You scope in and look at them, you then scope out and shoot them instantly in the head. (This is not the video you've uploaded) Now this can be done once or twice if lucky. But the number of things you've clearly done with the evidence provided over a week or two was enough to punish you for it.

I never heard of such a cheat.... that would allow for that to happen.

What i'm actually doing is i'm shooting them while scoped. The moment i click the shoot button i press my bind to go to my previous weapon twice. Once to go back to being holstered and than from being holstered back to my sniper. It's a habit i developed while playing csgo with the awp. If it's done quickly enough it would look like what you have described.
this seems reasonable enough tbh, even if i did originally misunderstand this

again i might lack evidence as this alone doesnt seem enough to vote on confidently
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242693

Also a question out of curiosity since i'm not 100% sure how handling this type of thing works. But wouldn't it be much quicker and faster if I just spoke/typed with the LT's in discord or ts about the video? Since i would be able to answer or explain anything they think is me hacking?
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242694

We are currently still debating the best way to handle this. Once I have an answer you will have one too.

Bare in mind it's early in the morning for UK/Europe so have patience.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242695

Clearly the LeadTeam had sufficient evidence of you cheating otherwise you wouldn't have been punished. Your 1+hour of "evidence" of you, not cheating shows nothing, you could've simply deleted whatever cheat you had and wiped it from your PC.
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242696

Kurze wrote:
We are currently still debating the best way to handle this. Once I have an answer you will have one too.

Bare in mind it's early in the morning for UK/Europe so have patience.

Oki and also do i get to see the footage of me apparently hacking?
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242697

BossComic23 wrote:
Clearly the LeadTeam had sufficient evidence of you cheating otherwise you wouldn't have been punished. Your 1+hour of "evidence" of you, not cheating shows nothing, you could've simply deleted whatever cheat you had and wiped it from your PC.


I keep failing to understand how you reaching this conclusion.
If i showed me uninstalling the game. That removes all possibilities of injection scripts/alteration to the files etc...
I showed all the programs running in the background and my gameplay did not change in anyway.
So if my gameplay didn't change... that means it's my own skill by default and not some cheats.

You would be correct if after reinstalling the game I would perform worse. However i didn't I still killed people with flicks and got lots of headshots and even during that recording people on the server thought i was cheating...
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[TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242698

Hacking Policy wrote:
Presenting evidence to the user

  • a. In the instance of non-automated detections the user should be presented with the evidence such as logs, screenshots or other evidence leading up to their detection. This must be done before the user is punished. Members of the community team are not required to show evidence to the users but evidence should be present so that it may be displayed and validated as clear should it be questioned.

  • b. Should there be a reason for not providing the evidence to the user such as sensitive information a vote may be held by the lead team to decide on a different approach. This vote must be held prior to any case even if the cases are similar to previous cases where a vote on presenting evidence has taken place.
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    [TTT] Nura's Punishment Appeal 4 years 5 months ago #1242703

    Hey Nura,

    After speaking with some other lead team members we have decided to stick with our decision to punish you. We have clear evidence that shows you hacking on our server(s). I'd like to point out if you are caught hacking once again and we validate the proof we will proceed to punish you accordingly.

    If you wish to see the evidence we voted on you may send me a message on discord @ Kurze#1427.

    This has been denied.
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