TOPIC: [TTT] Warn Appeal

Name - kato
STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:0:194342189
Staff Members Name - Kurze
Punishment Reason - Blocking (loophole)
Server - TTT
Story/Situation - I was standing in the tester doorway, as a detective. People were trying to get in and out and Kurze was telling me to move. I attempted to leave but was being blocked on both sides, then I was slayed even though I couldn't move if I wanted to. I honestly have no idea where in the rules blocking is a rule that can be broken, or how in any way I was loop holing it. Im just very confused, seeing as earlier FreeZe had teleported me away because I was standing in a doorway during a previous round.
Extra Information - Seeing as standing isn't a warn able offence and I could've just been killed by anyone I don't see how I should have been slain for being in a doorway

If your story true

Good, let me upload the video of you trolling non-stop.

The video:
Soz for possible Chicago Fire on the background


You were warned to move continuously in text chat as you were blocking a door and calling " oh you wouldn't kos a detective "
After someone gave you 2 warnings you proceeded to move out of the way for that 1 person and then came back. I warned you twice to Stop trolling you did not listen and yet continued to block everyone who tried to get into the tester.

For whoever is handling, here is the exact reason he was punished
Kurze slayed 07861783560127836782(Kato) for Blocking (loophole)

Kato_ wrote:
You could leave i saw you...you were just staying there and when i told you that i will report you in the forum you started laughing is it that funny to staff disrespect in that way?

FreeZeGaming wrote:
do me a favor and don't lie when other people saw the whole thing

please don't come on here after you abused me and still didn't apologize, for standing in a doorway

Kato_ wrote:
I will apologize you after you apologize for calling me doofis !

FreeZeGaming wrote:
is it funny to laugh at staff abuse? and horrible behavior?

you were given multiple verbals to stop blocking - it directly goes against the T-baiting rule as you're harming the innocent team by not letting them get into the tester, at most the punishment reason should be changed and nothing else.

good luck!

You can’t warn for a rule that doesn’t exist. There are ways to work around this within the laws of the game mode and using powers was excessive in this situation

Kevin. wrote:

I was going to support you but after seeing Kurze and Freeze's replies it seems like you've been slayed for a good reason. But let's see the video evidence.
For now I'm neutral
Good luck !

EDIT: Nvm a slay is actually very harsh.

I support you

Kevin. wrote: bruh so if anyone blocks I can just get a staff member to slay them rather than actually using the in game precautions and using it to kill the player? You can’t call it traitor baiting unless you know he was doing it to assist the traitors team.

My biggest issue with this punishment is that it is for a rule that doesn't exist. The in game warnings rule states:The rule says you are allowed to warn someone twice to get out of the way. In no way, shape, or form does it say or imply that you are not allowed to return to a position you were blocking, that blocking is against the rules, or that you are not allowed to not respond to the warnings. I believe that a slay was not necessary for this situation. The other point that is brought up is that it is T Baiting, which could be argued for, however he was not punished for that therefore making this slay invalid. Although the argument could be made that he was trolling during this time, it still does not make the punishment valid as blocking doorways is not against the rules. Another point which could be made is that he used his detective position to get away with blocking the doorway, but the rule doesn't state that you aren't allowed to KOS certain roles who follow you around the map, body block you, etc.

Kyber wrote: It depends on the context of the blocking, if you are stood in the tester door not allowing anyone to test then yes its causing a lot of harm to the innocent team. In other situations like just blocking one person in a room its not that big a deal and can be dealt with by warning them that you will kill them, however if its a detective you cant really kill them as an innocent due to karma loss and the 100% chance you get killed for doing it. To block the tester and not allow anyone in to test does aid the traitors regardless of if that was his intention.

Kyber wrote: they shouldn't be punished for their first offense, as i said he was told multiple times to stop.

"You can’t call it traitor baiting unless you know he was doing it to assist the traitors team."
his intentions don't matter if he is continuously harming the innocents, it's stated that you can't do anything that will effect the innocent team negatively


"2.4 T-Baiting as an Innocent
When in-game you cannot commit traitorous acts as innocent/detective. For example, you cannot shoot nearby players to “scare” them, push people near or off ledges or do anything that possibly harms the innocent team."

(edit: posted this before i read miaa's reply, mostly saying the same thing)

Kurzex wrote:
I honestly believe that this slay makes no sense, you can't be punished just because your blocking a doorway. Would you slay the player if he was a terrorist who is trying to make his teammate plant the c4 downstairs on the tester by blocking the doorway? I find this slay unvalid.

PoseidonEUW wrote:
Well he was doing it every round till he got slayed (loophole...)

You should have been killed for this since it's a KOSable offence. I see no reason for a slay to be given, maybe the video will change my mind.