TOPIC: [TTT] Warning Appeal for Hasefet

Name - Hasefet
STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:0:11511835
Staff Members Name - |Jar|
Punishment Reason - RDM
Server - Which server did this occur on? ZARPGAMING 24.7 Minecraft
Story/Situation -

Opera Detective and Tewer were running around as a pair of traitors, I was a detective. Tewer engaged me in the water, Opera watched the fight from the shoreline. As they were the only two people in view, and Opera was aiming at water but not assisting me for the 17 seconds to kill Tewer, I assumed Opera was also a traitor - I actually thought he'd shot at me, but he certainly hadn't helped me kill Tewer. I shot him once I'd killed Tewer, and he ran off.

After partially healing up behind tower, Opera ran up to me again, then ran away, and I shot him, checked corpse, traitor, reported, warned for RDM.

Here are the shot logs:

[02:44] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Louis [innocent] for 17 HP with weapon_ttt_special_mp9
[02:44] Tewer [traitor] killed Louis [innocent] with weapon_ttt_special_mp9
[02:51] Opera Detective [traitor] identified the body of Louis [innocent]
[02:55] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 8 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[02:55] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 8 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[02:55] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 8 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[02:56] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 14 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[02:56] =GSG= Sticky_Fingers [innocent] identified the body of 4eLoBeK 0.1 [innocent]
[02:56] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 8 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[02:58] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 8 HP with weapon_ttt_special_uzi
[03:00] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 9 HP with weapon_ttt_m1911
[03:01] Opera Detective [traitor] bought a radar
[03:02] Hasefet [detective] has damaged Tewer [traitor] for 35 HP with weapon_ttt_special_contender
[03:07] Tewer [traitor] has damaged Hasefet [detective] for 9 HP with weapon_ttt_m1911
[03:10] <something/world> killed =GSG= Sticky_Fingers [innocent]
[03:10] Hasefet [detective] has damaged Opera Detective [traitor] for 50 HP with weapon_ttt_special_contender
[03:12] <something/world> killed Tewer [traitor]
[03:20] Hasefet [detective] identified the body of Tewer [traitor]
[03:21] Opera Detective [traitor] identified the body of 美的–Alex [innocent]
[03:22] <something/world> killed ⇨OSZAI⇦ [innocent]
[03:37] Hasefet [detective] bought weapon_ttt_health_station
[03:44] Hasefet [detective] has damaged Opera Detective [traitor] for 12 HP with weapon_ttt_sten
[03:45] Hasefet [detective] has damaged Opera Detective [traitor] for 12 HP with weapon_ttt_sten
[03:45] Hasefet [detective] killed Opera Detective [traitor] with weapon_ttt_sten
[03:47] Hasefet [detective] identified the body of Opera Detective [traitor]


And here's the conversation afterwards:


[Templar] Hasefet: hey jar, can I chat to you and opera about that warning please
[Administrator] [Justicar] |Jar|: Hasefet He never shot you
[Templar] Hasefet: I checked the logs, you're right
[Templar] Hasefet: but he stood watching me be attacked as detective by a fellow traitor
[Templar] Hasefet: and I thought he was shooting at me
[Skilled] Opera Detective: that's sus at best
[Templar] Hasefet: for thirty seconds, while I was trying to kill the traitor
[Skilled] Opera Detective: it was like 10 seconds
[Templar] Hasefet: it's suspicion if a detective is being attacked and you don't assist?
[Skilled] Opera Detective: tops
[Templar] Hasefet: standing watching?
[Administrator] [Justicar] |Jar|: Do not join gunfight lmao
[Skilled] Opera Detective: yeah cause hitting the water is easy
[Administrator] [Justicar] |Jar|: Rules
[Templar] Hasefet: I was detective?
[Administrator] [Justicar] |Jar|: Still
[Templar] Hasefet: really? OK
|Jar| to You: I mean
|Jar| to You: If traitor shooting at D
[Templar] Hasefet: but that's exactly what happened
|Jar| to You: u can't help D
[Templar] Hasefet: what? seriously?
|Jar| to You: Because then you join a gunfihgt
[Skilled] Opera Detective: you still RDMed me
[Skilled] Opera Detective: just move along

Essentially, I'm asking if this is really a standard policy - that joining a fight to assist a detective when it's a rando innocent trying to kill him counts as an illegal action, and that failure to assist a detective isn't grounds for that detective to KOS. If so, I clearly need to play very differently.

Okay because my english knowledge suck i need to write a scenario:

T shoots with D, Innocent see gunfight and don't want to help. D kills Inno because he didn't help D. Inno reported D for : I wanted to help but
1)I didn't want to join the gunfight
2)If I wanted to help you, I could kill you by accident.
I hope you know what i mean....
I wanted to tell you that when I was in-game but I was busy.

"If two individuals are fighting and you have no proof which could be the traitor, you must wait before joining in the fight until one player dies and they either; identify the body/the round ends/you question them."

If the fight involves a detective you are allowed to join it and kill the other player, as you know with 100% certainty that the detective is innocent.

Handling

-pls lock-