TOPIC: JeTex ban appeal

Name - What is your ingame name?
JeTex
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:1:186664723
Admins name - Who banned you/who might it be?
Morgan
Reason - What is/might be the reason that you got banned?
RDM
Server - What server did you get banned from?
All DarkRP servers
Time - How long were you banned for?
1 day
Story - What happend?
We were nuking in werehouse and then a guy with a car came in at first I didn't kill him but then he tried to CDM while I had my jugg on so I killed him,+there was a KOS sign just in case you guys (Morgan&Skelteon) see it as RDM,and u can see in the vid the player didn't have any intention to go to the NPC his full intention was to ran me over
Proof - Any proof on a video/screenshot that clearly show what happened?

Extra information - Any thing you think may be relevant to your ban.
no

The video doesn't work.


EDIT it's fixed now

Looks like he most definitely has the intent of killing you.

Before I go into detail on your "RDM", let's get it out in the open your ban was for having 5 Recents, Disrespectful Attitude, and RDM. 3 of those recents being for disrespect, and our conversation on teamspeak where you did nothing but shout over me with excuses and ended up muting your sound like a child instead of speaking about the issues at hand.

Now for your RDM warning, when I teleported you after the nuke, on teamspeak you said that he had hit you with your car and when I asked you if he did damage to you, you said he did hit you and did do damage to you. I knew this to not be the case though, and also the fact that the player swerved out of the way as to not hit you it wasn't CDM or attempted CDM from what I can see. That being said, you lied. All players should have access to NPC's and their services, meaning even if the player over-shot the NPC location you are in no position to prioritize your own SSRP Inventory (Gold Jugg) over the SSRP Rules in the way that you did.

At the end of the day, he was denied access to the NPC by you, didn't hit you, and looked to me as if he had no intention of hitting you.

Morgan wrote:
Firstly - access to NPC is false. Police officers have no business accessing the car scrapping NPC, as doing so would be corruption, removing that argument entirely, meaning the kill is ALREADY validated.

Secondly, he swerved towards him, and let me call back upon the SSRP rules:

EMP wrote:
Surely swerving a car towards him with clear intentions of killing him while he has an immobile suit on is threatening? Especially when you put it in context and realise he's a cop? Don't see what you're saying there that he had no intention of hitting him, seems like you're not looking at this situation with an objective view.

sorIe wrote:
Well, no access is correct, regardless of job otherwise it would be stated.

Also, in regards to the video you can clearly see the driver swerves in the opposite direction so as not to hit him.

Morgan wrote: 1. When I unmuted myself on Teamspeak I did try to talk with you, but not even 1 sec into our conversation I realize that u are just trying to get me banned so I just give up and left the call.
2. If u really say he didn't try to CDM me he didn't try to go for the NPC as well u can clearly see it in the vid lol and because we own the dis I am allowed to kill him cuz he had no interact with the NPC.

Morgan wrote: He redirects his path in advance TOWARDS him, then swerves away from him after missing. I don't see it honestly.

The NPC argument has always been there - let me link a past report in which a similar argument was used of cops trying to use NPCs unnecessarily in KOS zones to catch someone out for RDM:

Click here

As outdated as this is, there's been no change in the related rule since, and attitudes towards the rule have remained constant.

Cops CAN actually use the Bail NPC, even if it's made redundant realistically by the job itself, so there's a similar principal applied in this situation, and I'd say more correctly applied in JeTex's situation.

Morgan wrote:
U can also see that at the start of the vid i didn't shot him,and then when u can see the he 1000000000% try to hit me with the car and only when it was clear the his trying to ran me over I killed him

Handling...

Richard_2017 wrote:
I would like someone higher than u to handle it.

Richard_2017 wrote: I'd honestly believe this would be more suitable for a higher-up to handle, no offence at all to you or anything but this is a situation which requires 100% on-point rule knowledge, and I don't doubt you however there's no arguing that LT members have more experience.

Good luck with this either way bud.

Of course. I respect that. I will be letting one of the LT's take over.

After speaking with Morgan he has told me that when he was talking to you, you were shouting and barely let him talk. He also told me that you lied about it at first and said that car hit you and done damage to you and that’s why you killed him.

In my opinion it wouldn’t be rdm, but the fact that you lied about the whole situations I believe the ban is valid as you just tried to lie your way out of it as you must of thought it was also rdm until you found the “threathend rule”. SkeletonWarrior was also there at the time and he also claims that you also lied and said the car hit you. Oxy also agreed that it was RDM. In the video you clearly weren’t hit at all.

You also had another 5 punishments before the ban and that’s why led Morgan on you ban you from the server due to your amount of recent punishments for Disrespect etc.

I believe you should wait out your ban and consider not breaking the server rules anymore from now on to stop this from actually happening to you next time