TOPIC: Server 2 Map Poll

Stratiic wrote:
The plan is to have a map on the server and keep it there for a while not for one to get picked and for you guys to say this map actually sucked can we do another vote consequently taking more time up than is necessary. Bottom line is if bloc42 gets picked it won't be fixed you guys will complain and want a revote which causes unneeded time and effort going in to changing the map.

Max. wrote:
I will give you a tutorial on how to fix bloc42.
1. Remove current mines
2. Make a building leading to newer mines.
3. Profit.

SabreTooth wrote: Who is doing all this? Because I can tell you EMP or chute ain't doing it.

SabreTooth wrote:
Have you not read emp's earlier comments because this makes it look like you clearly did not

Why fix something while we also can get something that is not broken;)

ParaMontana wrote: Obviously I never because this thread is like a tornado. Just going to say, it shows what the community wants. So it will probably be the result.

Also, you anti-bloc arguments...

SabreTooth wrote: If you feel like its that easy whats stoping you from just doing it then? Surely if there are so many people who want the map, then their must be someone who is willing to stepup and fix the problem.

EMP wrote: I never said it was easy. I was just saying how it would be fixed. You obviously know how to edit maps, and you did a large job on Server 1's map. It must be a smaller job when compared to what you did to server 1. That's why I'm speaking like it's simpler. Because it really seems like it would be a simpler job.

SabreTooth wrote:
Here i thought you would look into emps comment . Because if you did you would not be asking or stating this right now

I don't really understand why people are putting up a big front for bloc to come back, yet no one is willing to fix the bugs that have been listed several times already. I am pretty sure that bloc will be a good map, but I do not see the point in putting a massive argument in for a map unless you are willing to fix the fundamental issues that will make it so the mao is unusable.

*written on phone.

I know this, and that is exactly the reason why I am saying that voting in a map with big issues that wont get fixed sounds like a wasted opportunity to me.

well thats the people choice when they vote so if they get block then complain they chose it so they will have to deal with it

Guys i cant understand what is your problem really like bloc got changed last time for some reason and why u dont want to try somethin new like EVO city and ppl makin alts is it even allowed?
Evo city-
good quality
Big map
Alot of good spots
Look Realistic

Yoda wrote:
Your arguement is a little cut off, at least include the downsides, like the fact it will take you 10 minuites to walk to a base. Evo is a good map, but I think that its too big for 30-50 players.

itzsonzy wrote: it can fill 90 ppl and some bases will be still empty
+u can buy cars and theres 2 sides outside the town and inside and its like rockford but better

You guys can argue all you want. the point is. Almost half of the community want Bloc42. And thats it.

BuzzM42H wrote:
I'm excited to see the shitstorm 1 week after map change. Lmao

Morgan wrote:
Well considering we had a s2 way before rockford, and it's had maps like evilmelon which is about the same size as downtown, I wouldn't call it a founding principle.
Yoda wrote:
If it can fill 90 people and bases will still be empty, then imagine how little interaction between players there will be with just 30-40

You can't use "looks realistic" as an argument. The engine it's running in is over 10 years old so nothing will ever "look realistic"

Para said something about the RP of travel time... Well who actually wants that? There's fun RP and then there's big map so people have to run a marathon to find your base so you can AFK print all day RP.
ParaMontana wrote:
The first point is so stupid it doesn't warrant a response.

Many people who play gmod have sub par PCs, hence why they aren't playing better games for RP such as arma.

Until it gets stolen and scrapped and you're left stranded and 10k out of pocket and don't know where to go.

It's perfect for your selfish AFK basing needs, that's for sure, but not for the rest of the players on S2.

Dankness 1337

Rockford
The thing with Rockford, it's basically the only reason Server 2 became more popular it's the reason the economy went up so much. Once the Black Diamonds came out people just hid the printers in spots on the map and made money, I was here when the map was added, it was so fun for the first 3 weeks and then people just AFK printed all day. ( I know I sound hypocritical here as I am a victim of just AFK printing on this map as it is the only reason I started playing server 2 to gain an advantage in the economy so I can be rich. The map can effect Economy, server popularity, reasoning for playing and liking of the map in general including problems with bugs. Rockford is just to big in my opinion and can only be fun when huge crowds of people base or the joy of raiding and printing while making shit loads of money with little to no effort at all.

Evocity
Evocity is one of the most used maps in existence for the DarkRP gamemode, I feel we would have the same problem as Rockford, it is obviously going to have way to many bugs as it's such a big map, it will affect the popularity of the server as the Server 2 popularity will go up if people need to make money just by hiding or printing in a low key area of the map.

Evilmelon
Evilmelon is a fun map with little to no bugs, the map was a very good one for the server at the time and it made Server 2's popularity rise and attracted many people from Server 1 to play on Server 2. There is a few things about this map, basically it's used on almost every server just like Evocity and Downtown, but that shouldn't really affect the positives of this map such as there is a lot of potential for great base designs and making it a good map for raiding and tactical game play when raiding or defending and can serve a lot of purpose.

Block 42
Block 42 is a small/medium size map and has previously been used. It was swapped because of it becoming a map that had got boring for the community. I think that if we swapped the map there is potential for the same process to occur.

Server 2 Popularity Changes (Map based)
Rockford
If the map is kept at Rockford the Server 2 popularity will most likely stay where it is at until the community gets to the point of high level boredom and stops playing. If a player is looking to make money this is the reason to play on this map besides long range gameplay.
Evocity
Same as Rockford if the map is swapped there is a risk of players losing interest after a while or gaining interest, as this map hasn't been chosen for zarp yet it is hard to tell due to the unique gameplay and features of Zarps SSRP.
Evilmelon
The server 2 popularity is most likely to stay average, lower or even increase. It could stay as it is due to the map having a good interest for raiding, tactical gameplay and just overall classic fun, it can lower as the map at one point was asked to be changed multiple times due to a lot of people getting bored, it can increase because a lot of older players within the community generally enjoyed it but at the same time it got boring after a few hours of playing (maybe less)
Block42
The Server 2 popularity will most likely rise as majority of the community enjoyed the map back when it was here and for the people that weren't here when it was placed would have curiosity of the map and try it out by playing. The problem is after a while the server popularity could decrease do to boredom like the last time we had it here.

Economy wise
Rockford
The economy of overall SSRP will tend to keep rising due to effortless printing drug making etc. If we keep this map the economy will rise so much that people on the server will be able to afford so much in weeks time, after a while and having the privilege of having almost everything on the server and nothing else to accomplish people will tend to get bored and maybe quit playing or not play very often or as much.

Evocity
The same as Rockford but depending on knowledge of the map where people hide printers or common basing spots and faster ways to get places, it is unknown of what might happen, if it is easy to raid people the economy can rise/drop to normal levels due to people gaining money and losing money during raids, if the map tends to be to big and it's to much effort to raid people will tend to just afk print and gain loads of cash like Rockford, there is a lot of factors for this map due to it never previously being on one of the servers.

Evilmelon
The economy will most likely drop to the normal level of what it was before Rockford was here, as it is easy to find a base and raid it, it is also easy to hide printers and defend as the tactical game play and sniping/guard spots on this map are fun and reliable who knows what might happen as there is a lot of potential for the economy to rise, drop, or stay the way it is on this map due to us having server 1 at the same time.

Block42
The economy is most likely to have the same effect as evilmelon due to there being lots of places you can secretly guard from and base designs will be unique and can have potential for guarding, raiding etc. There is a wide range of possible occurrences for this map and I think it could have potential for the economy.

Hahahha i love how the strongest thing they have against me is that i only want big maps because of printing . Even though after the summer update i stopped rping . Because i wanted to do admin stuff only . I only recently started rping again. But hey rockford will win anyways.