TOPIC: Issues with the server (do not shit post here)

So I have recently came back to zarp (from taking breaks after resigning) and we can all already see a downfall in players. We recently just smashed out a update so why is this?

1. You join the server as a noob there is no way of starting off. Even if you attempted to use the coin dropper its next to impossible to win anything good.

An example of this was just yesterday. The coin dropper on server 3 wasn't the best and contained really low tier items apart from the case of course. Removing the odds of not getting anything here was the basic odds of the coindropper. Keep in mind this was only the values of what was in the dropper yesterday.

With these drops inside you would only make around a 2k gem profit. Yes this can be abused by older and experienced players but not if coded correctly. Instead of this they smack a massive chance on getting "no item" back. Meaning you only ever lose. I was a big fan of item and money sinks but these do not work if money and items arnt coming into the server unless you donate. Lets skip all that drama tho and leave that for another time.

The lack of anything to do in game. Yes the server is all fun while you are rdming your friends at spawn but when you look at content and things to do there is very little new players can do and experience. I have brought this up so many times yes of course its hard to make and do. But it needs to be done to keep the players entertained and kept on the servers. So lets look at the things to do.
1, Drugs runs - Lasts 10 mins fun but one time a day (would not keep anyone attracted due to the item being low value most the time and camped by older players)
2, Bank raids- The new player starts a bank raid but completely gets fucked by a guy in any type of suit while using a mp5.
3, Casino raid- The new player finally finds a code in the casino just to get raped by fbi with golden edf's while using nothing but a shotgun.
4, mining - see's someone else using 10 accounts thinks (what's the point in me doing this).
5, Tried to set up a gun store no one buys guns because self supply is allowed.

Printers and vip printers are a waste of time, Unless you are abusing alt accounts by farming multiple at once you will never get anywhere. A server should not be like this.

TLDR

Unless you donate or start of with rich friends you can basically do nothing on zarp with out being out powered by OP items. Along with this the amount of hackers that are currently on the server is insane. With policy's stopping you from warning/banning them a player who knows there way around will always get away with it.




Ill possibly be adding to this over time but I will ask you again please do not shit post on this thread. I would rather have suggestions and ideas. Not just girl drama. I would also ask not be just told (join the CC) or (here is the suggestion format) or something sarky. This is me purely trying to help a community that a lot of people love and want to play. This is also not just me trying to "call" out anyone. I personally think Chute and xnator are amazing at what they do but just get pulled off track sometimes.

These are some very good points summed up in a "small" post. This should definitely be looked into and taken with great seriousness.

I think you are right due to getting things like easter update and spring update these new players are joining the server and get raped in-game because everyone that is longer than a month on server 1 and actively playing they are raping the new guys. If they get donated a 100mill there is nothing to do for them really because they can do with that 100mill a lot. The people that already suggested to wipe the server and get the booster packs active, is not really going to help either. So there is sort of nothing that we can do about this in my sight. But I hope there will be a solution to this problem.

Happy wrote: A server wipe will never happen due to the fact people don't know what they want. a reset server would be amazing but done wrong it will just end up the same the main server has gone. What I would suggest is a new server with a complete new admin/LT team, But as I said people will not want this type of stuff due to them wanting to keep there items/

jack bushross wrote:
Its been suggested in the past for a new server an actual classic server but they refuse to make a new data base and who are these people who dont want it because they want to keep their stuff? Only time ive ever heard that is from a LT who is against making a new server

EviIstewie wrote: You have completely missed the point. I am saying people don't want this due to reasons im not going to list every single reason here its a pointless argument lol. This thread is to try and push zarp in the right direction and here the complaints and suggestions people have.

The removal server 2 and change of maps on server 3 is something I believe affected basing and mining. You could for example mine for a whole night with no problems on rockford. Now you can't really base alone without powerful people raiding you. I've seen many people basing and enjoying the server, but turned their back to it since it's too hard.

jack bushross wrote:
Im hearing you but honestly how many people have complained and no change has been made? In the nicest way what makes you special enough for them to listen?

Jeans wrote: We literally need a better modified map, I’m so sick and tired of playing Downtown it’s just the same bullshit and the only reason why it’s staying is because it’s a popular map to use in Garry’s Mod and we don’t have an active mapper to actually do the job consistently because there will always be ideas and issues for maps. I’d much rather have the community’s word considered over what other server does which is just using Downtown maps (I’ll never understand why those maps still remains popular, it’s literal dog shit to play on especially in ZARP playing fields).

We need more areas to base in and I’m not just talking adding more secret bases, elevators, etc. The current state is horrible and there are only two buildings people typically use for basing/nuking. I requested for the Rockford V2B Disco to be ported into the map for basing due to being a hotspot for basing and that has yet to happen and I highly doubt it will happen until someone is willing to genuinely spend time mapping for ZARP again.

I’ll go into more detail about ZARP playing fields, weapons such as the Hand Cannon and special suits are limited in terms of movement all because of the map. You hit the sky limit a lot and it’s very random in certain areas but Patrick said it will cause a lot of issues if it was touched so what was the solution? Leave it fucked. I personally find it extremely annoying when the map isn’t opened, remember how popular and fun the raids were on the bigger opened up maps like Rockford? It’s not so cramped, you have a much bigger chance of surviving a lot of shit because it’s not small and plenty of areas to access and also fly away with. Explosives and other special weapons were more possible to survive in because you could just easily rely on your movement rather than being stuck on a small cramped map.

Now I’m not shitting on the mappers work, I think they do a brilliant job but the problem is it is extremely inconsistent to see things get done and for a new map to actually get released (eg EMP’s Rockford edit, been ‘worked’ on for like over 3-4 years now and still nothing). I understand the challenges when it comes to mapping so I do have respect for that and I hope this post can be taken as a way to help in the future when it comes to mapping for the ZARP servers more specifically and just in general.

There's just a big gap between old and established players and new players

the server is not new players friendly and its definitely not going in that way either. the craftable suits are "nice" at most but takes a few hours to craft one they're not so great and a new player will definitely not know how to use them also a new player cannot obtain "decent items" so easily he either has to get them from someone feeling generous or complete the daily objectives to get a supercharged uranium or just buy boosterpacks that's about it for methods on making stuff as a new player without any big gang

even if a new player obtains items. he wont use them because he wont know how to use them properly like some other players that's really the issue ive seen new players that have obtained suits and just wont use them because they know they wont know how to utilize them in combat etc

i'm honestly not sure how they will be able to change it unless they change it completely because the server is already established for a few years and will be hard to close the gap between old and new players that easily. some new players get established if they get help from a gang but that's not how you solve this.

Clarky wrote:
Bloc42 with PSG's and best item being a orb, 4 og player upgrades

Hi Jamie,

We're working very hard at the moment with EMP especially to get some brand new features added to solve the issue of users who feel that there is nothing to do. The new PD raid system was a part of that, but we understand that this is quite difficult and is going to be something for the more skilled players to complete, rather than something for everyone.

For the more in-depth systems, we really do need updates maps with these features, but I hope that you and others can understand that the only people currently able to do the map side of this for us are Patrick and EMP. EMP isn't as experienced with mapping as Patrick is, so it takes him quite a lot longer to get done, and for those who are aware of what Patrick does for a living, I'm sure you can understand that his job is immensely important in current times, and we really don't want to pull him away from that because we want a map update. This same point also applies to the idea of a new map for our USA server and the range of new features Patrick has been working on for our Downtown map. We do hope that these can be finished at some point, but in these uncertain times, we can't promise when this will be possible for him to finish.

I do understand and appreciate that you and others feel as if we're not adding absolutely everything that you guys want, but we are working out absolute hardest to get out consistent, high quality updates. Just last week I released my Spring Update alongside Chute's April Fools update, and Chute has now been working tirelessly on the new Easter Update with amazing features like the new PD raid system. We don't plan on stopping here. We're going to continue to work through our list of plans and ideas, including the plans and ideas on my list from the Community Council, in order to further improve the experience on the server, including your idea of the Starter Pack for new players.

The idea of a "Classic" server is something we did discuss and have already gone into great detail into the reasons for why we put the idea on hold. One of these reasons is that it's something that Chute and EMP have tried before, and have seen through their experience that it really doesn't work. Last time they tried it, it absolutely shattered the existing playerbase and caused way more issues than it solved. The idea we put forward before, and the one we would consider working on, is a "Combat Server" which would prevent the use of a range of special weapons, but would be on the same database. People did not like this idea, so we concluded that it was not something that would be worthwhile working on, but it would rather be more beneficial for us to listen to feedback from the Community Council on the issues that some people have and to put more time into maintaining the existing servers and getting these issues solved. A classic / reset server would only postpone the issues. We want to fix issues, not push them aside to be dealt with later.

It does slightly disappoint me to see posts like this from people like you with such amazing ideas (who do also share those ideas with us and have helped the server massively) without also seeing a Community Council application to share these ideas and discuss them further. Things like this, and any other community wide issues are really the kind of things we want to have discussed in the Community Council meetings. You're a former member of the Community Council yourself, Jamie, and did bring some excellent ideas to the table and helped us to get some really high quality updates out.

those were the days
EDIT : Was meant to quote what evil said about bloc42 and psg

I am just gonna say this now, making suits 1 and 2 percent, keep in mind the suits usually aren't very good, does not help bring suits into the economy. We so badly need suits to come back into the economy, the fact that an EVO Suit is 1.5b is absolutely insane. The last time a suit had more than 2.5% chance in a case was before the mummy suit.

EviIstewie wrote: the player upgrades were added when it was downtown?

Sp00ns wrote: Im not sure but I believe it was on bloc42 but it only cost money not scu

EviIstewie wrote:
zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/darkrp/50...game-features#180585

they were all added on the summer update which included nuclear launches , player upgrades , gems , and gluon guns etc

it always required an scu in order to craft a upgrade and in my opinion that update was the best update on zarp

The grind is too difficult and way to lengthy for new players and even casual players
On Zarp if you are a beginner and you want to play seriously there's no way you will stay here...
The majority of players are very experienced and they have literally countless amount of cash and items.
So, basically to play properly as a new player, you will have to get your hands on a suit which is not easy for a beginner.
You will have to get essential items, explosive and other things, defibs.. baseshields, printers etc..
You will have to spend about 80+hours of mining, trading and cf'ing just to get 500m to buy a suit, nano or jugg suit.
Can you imagine how life is hard for new players ? they make a tiny base on s2 printing, trying to make money to afford items to deffend themselves against stupid retards raiding with gluons suits vs one guy and a spas, and in the best case a m202 or a rpg.

We have to do something to balance that shit out, its either noobs go ahead and spend money or they just quit !!
And they usually quit because nobody wants to spend money when their first hours of gameplay are like this, its cancerous.
We need a big update to fix that shit, implement new ways to make money, improve the weed, and shrooms system, we already got a huge improvement in drugs but how about selling shrooms and weed ?
We should improve that system and make something to give players more money the more risk there is to take.

New players are important, and i don't want to see Zarp dying like this, Zarp literally helped me to learn English, i made good friends and i had sooo many good moments, so with all the money Zarp get, for god sake, get new devs !!!
The updates are too long, and for the time they take its really SAD to see whats in it...

I don't want to write more because if i have to be completely honest i might get banned for being too honest and hostile so maybe another time...

Honestly agree with all of this, imo the only suit with less than a 2.5% drop chance should be the mummy due to how good it is, and at that it’s a stretch, the suit odds need to be improved

removing bloc42 because the powerfull weapons will not let you base on there. Imagine that happening on s1 and s2 oh wait.