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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894256

There was a lot of complaints about the changes to the racism rule in terms of punishment. I agree with a harsher punishment for people being discriminatory to other groups of people as it can lead to bullying, harassment, and other issues. However, in terms of "discrimination", racism is just a drop of water in the ocean for what that is. If we're going to be this harsh for someone using a word like the n-word, where is the punishment for people using the word F*ggot, and other discriminate terminology on ZARP Servers? I was on S1 the other day and people were using the word constantly in OOC and even having it in their names, and it was only ever dealt with when someone complained about it but I know full well if someone said the n-word there would be a server full of staff waiting to pile on a punishment for that.

Just my thoughts, interested to see what some people think about this.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894259

Exactly, This is why so many people are complaining about it
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894260

When talking about this rule, it has been brought up multiple times to the LT and the CM team that it should be an all or nothing. We try and treat every situation the same, but more concern is placed towards the n word due to the amount that people have been using it.

If what you're saying is true about the word f*ggot becoming the new n-word then it will be dealt with.

There is no room for discrimination on ZARP as stated in the rules. We're just getting through a transitional period of "what is okay" and " what is not okay" so it will take some time for everyone to be on the same page for these punishments and new rules.

All we can ask for is patience with our staff team, we're doing our best to make ZARP a better place and enjoyable for everyone. :)
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894261

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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894262

i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894269

TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894273

TheCorgi wrote:
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i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894275

TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
I Agree with the disrespect thing but why when we say the n word all sttaf tp to us ??
its just a word
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894276

i think you should be more concerned about people who are using offensive language to bully and harrass people.

if its not targetted at anyone then there should be no need to censor peoples language.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894278

Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894280

snowi wrote:
i think you should be more concerned about people who are using offensive language to bully and harrass people.

if its not targetted at anyone then there should be no need to censor peoples language.

We also talked about this, "if it wasn't meant for harassment could it be okay?"

Nope, it's 0 tolerance.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894281

TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894283

Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
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Go into any city anywhere where there are black people, and I dare you to call them the n-word. Do it. It's an offensive term, why can you not understand that?
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894287

Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
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Yet the man who proposed the racism rule is from UK..
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894288

TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
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Go into any city anywhere where there are black people, and I dare you to call them the n-word. Do it. It's an offensive term, why can you not understand that?
they sayng it every wher not only on usa and i can say therse no black ppls from usa playng zarp
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894289

hi it's me Nigel, world renown racist because of my name.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894290

Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
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4players from usa

Go into any city anywhere where there are black people, and I dare you to call them the n-word. Do it. It's an offensive term, why can you not understand that?
they sayng it every wher not only on usa and i can say therse no black ppls from usa playng zarp
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Do a vote for this rule and see ppl what they vote
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894292

Mr Rehkab wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Mr Rehkab wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
TrueOverL wrote:
i'd say just keep n word a warn not 1 fucking day ban like legit

0 Tolerance. It's also up to the staff member if they want to warn first or not. That goes for any discrimination. Once things calm down and people aren't so forward with that word, punishments won't have to always be a 1 day ban. Staff will probably do a lot more warning. But since we're still in that transition phase of "what should i do" its just a ban for most people.
btw its just a word what can the word do ?

I would tell you to go into a city in the US and say the nword just to see what happens, but I don't wish harm upon you. It's a seriously offensive word, and people take it seriously.
when i say it do you feel offended ?
99% zarp players from uk ......
4players from usa

Go into any city anywhere where there are black people, and I dare you to call them the n-word. Do it. It's an offensive term, why can you not understand that?
they sayng it every wher not only on usa and i can say therse no black ppls from usa playng zarp
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Do a vote for this rule and see ppl what they vote
Sure let's let complete idiots that'd rather harass an entire race and culture vote on whether or not harassment and discrimination is allowed, that sounds like a great idea.

Regardless of what you think of the word, it is not allowed within this community and that is final. I believe this should count for all offensive terms. "Retarded", "faggot" and similar terms should all be disallowed within the community. I find the fact that staff members consider certain words offensive and other, also offensive terms not to just be ridiculous.

Users should always be given a chance, though. I disagree with zero tolerance policies on practically everything - users should always get a chance to prove that they're not complete assholes. In my opinion a warning or two is more than enough before a ban should be placed.
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Either it's all allowed, or none of it is 7 years 3 months ago #894297

I agree completely with this, and I think it needs to be made clear. People think racism is a lot worse than any other form of discrimination, but discrimination is discrimination, no matter what form. And certain types of discrimination should not be punished differently than others
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