TOPIC: My thoughts on TTT - What do you think?

Jim_Jam wrote:
Sir I seem to recall Callum constantly talking to you about this on TS

TheXnator wrote:
I must've been AFK or something at those times.

I have been told, and I quote:

"Some of this is already added ... I have changed the Jester to be a 1% chance of spawning instead of 50% ... The swapper hasn't been changed"


That is all he has told me, and his use of the word "some" makes me think most of what I've said has been ignored. It's just sad to see the transparency I tried so hard to maintain with staff whilst being owner be lost. He seems to actively avoid most of the big changes I have suggested on this thread. Even when I found out about the jester - T room interaction, he just laughed and sarcastically said "That is hilarious" (at least I hope he was being sarcastic).

Other stuff is being discussed.

callumok2004 wrote:
Thank you for clarifying friend!

I've moved everything that was accepted into a spoiler at the bottom of the post to clean it up a little.

Just want it to be known my idea was never to remove the Jester as I think it's a fun role, it just needs to be changed. When you get the time be sure to read my proposals!

Jim_Jam wrote: I don't think that how the role is supposed to work. Especially the activating traps part. - Are jesters not in same category of roles as "independent"'s, but on the jesters' team instead?

Jim_Jam wrote:
Personally, i think the assassin role is overall quite tough to play as. When the server has low population, it's almost like getting a free traitor role buff. And when the server has a high population, it can take some time to find your target, and try not to kill anyone other than them with traps or utilities.
The penalty for killing the wrong player is very harsh imo, with seemingly no way to get rid of it for the rest of the round. I think it would be better if the penalty had a cooldown or a way to undo or rid of it.

Now that some of the special roles have had a player-count-cap set on them. I get a lot of rounds where the traitor and the old man role instantly cause the round to end. Perhaps it would be best to disable the roles of the Independent and Jester team, when the server has low population (2-4 players).

Edit: i totally forgot to mention that I think the swapper role is fine as is. Apart from the fact that two players can dump their karma to zero if they repeatedly kill eachother. My only real problem with it, as a staff, it does not update the players' role ID/name in the damagelogs. I think it would be a great QOL improvement for us if it did update. Thanks.

Alright so I've played for a few hours and here it is:

Some roles are just ass like the old man.
Double jump is janky as shit and ruins my bhopping.
I really don't know why there's so many Traitor and detective shop items, all of the trashy TTT servers back in the day had way too many credit items.
Speaking of credit items: The random tester is shit, the second life item is shit
The random tester just makes rounds faster for people with the attention span of a dog that cant be arsed to actually play TTT

Some of the new stuff is cool but right now it just feels like they accepted every damn suggestion for TTT and added it without consideration.
When I played more TTT some time ago I remember playing only on zarp because every other server was how zarp TTT is right now, pretty scuffed.

Gin wrote:
Lots of those were added before I even became owner. The random tester is being removed in the next update already.
You can easily disable doublle jump via the settings in the f4 menu
The old man is a very fun role that many people do enjoy on the server, it wont be removed anytime soon.

callumok2004 wrote: Actually, that's not accurate. People hate it as much as the no-sided roles, and they constantly complain about it to the point it's getting very exasperating. If I recall correctly, Miia has asked if anyone likes those roles, not a single person said yes but no. Like surely those people enjoy having one hp and dealing no damage while hilariously trying to get killed. (Every time you join TTT, you're always on spectator. I am not sure where you got the notion players enjoy it)


OMG I GOT THE JESTER ROLE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCHEST

callumok2004 wrote: old man is the definition of dogshit and double jump removed the ability to get funny kills where you shove someone off of a high location and hear them scream as they fall to their death

I remember the times we used to take the piss outta other servers for having so much shit on them it was just funny, but now Zarp TTT does...L. I've played like maybe 2 hours lately so my opinion isn't really concreate or whatever, but this TTT is literally like a copy of the Yogscast TTT and it sucks. All these roles are just straight out shit, but I can see where some of them can and are used for the benefit of the game, for example the paladin. A lot of the new items people just don't use and are pointless, either don't work correctly or just straight out shit.

Another thing I noticed was the double jump system, this is just really shit removes a lot of fun from the game (as in getting cool kills or whatever and actually looking out for fall damage). Also, a lot of the unlock weapons are very high in the level system. I think this should change a little because of the fact the server isn't as popular at current times. The unlock weapons are meant to be used, but due to the levelling system being so high and long, people can't use them. (Obviously excluding the long item players).

A lot of the playable maps in the rotation are just shit and in my opinion should just be gone, but I do understand the whole no more mineraft_b5 thingy. I guess a lot of people got board of that map, but lets be honest when it was on there the server was pretty much always full. To be honest I'm not sure why the change happened, I wasn't around when the new system came out to see or whatever. I do think that a server/community vote should happen to see what maps people want to play on the server and something like betas happen to include the community a lot more. This would be a great idea in my opinion, it includes the community and it will give people the opportunity to play the maps they like, or whatever I guess. In theory this would mean that more people want to play the server because they like the maps in the rotation.

Again I've only played a little over these couple of days so I could be talking shit. But basically the old ways were better, in my opinion.

Added my thoughts on the old man

Jim_Jam wrote:
ill campaign with u as long as u dont miss any annie Q's

SorIe wrote:
You sure you wanna campaign with this?

Buffy wrote:
Don’t bring my heal/shield Samira build, or my full vision Akali build into this

Jim_Jam wrote:

well time to get to work i guess