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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #750881

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Its not expected of server owners to have in depth programming knowledge in anyway. What makes a good owner is someone who thrives to make the server the best it can be. Although they may not be able to code they can come up with ideas not matter how big or small and then request that myself or another member of the development team work to implement them after all that is what I am here for.

A good server owner is someone who stops at nothing to get the server to the best it can be.
You can't exactly own a gmod server without knowing anything about Lua..

I own a server and know nothing about Lua and that’s not an issue at all as there are many developers willing to help them for their ideas for the server.

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Surf isn't dying in fact it is very popular from what I have seen but it doesn't bring too many people into the community[/quote
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #750882

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Its not expected of server owners to have in depth programming knowledge in anyway. What makes a good owner is someone who thrives to make the server the best it can be. Although they may not be able to code they can come up with ideas not matter how big or small and then request that myself or another member of the development team work to implement them after all that is what I am here for.

A good server owner is someone who stops at nothing to get the server to the best it can be.
You can't exactly own a gmod server without knowing anything about Lua..
Normally your probably right but these are not normal circumstances. This is ZARP and we are fairly unique in how we do things and because of that we are able to operate an environment that allows people who might not have development knowledge to be able to contribute to the server in their own ways. Be that managing player interactions and the staff team or by working with the development team to contribute ideas and be the voice of the staff team for those items they would add. This isn't the old days when it was just Chute and I who could code. Their are quite a few competent developers in the community that I'm sure would love to help and there are some really cool things planned for the PS servers it just takes time for how big of plans they are.
Yeah i spoke to Raeker and i realise now i had the wrong idea of what an owner is in this community :p
However i do believe that the owners should know how to code a little bit of lua
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #750883

its sarah who cares
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #750899

Sans Lorofksy wrote:
its sarah who cares

Both of us care about the server equally.
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #750937

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its sarah who cares

Both of us care about the server equally.
I agree you two care and that you want the best for the server and I hope you do make deathrun great again
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751060

I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751066

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I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.
I already explained to you that that update means very little if you don't give it to the CM team. You can complain now stating that you had everything ready, but it's still a fact that if they don't know about it they won't take it into account.

I've also explained that your continuous inactivity on Teamspeak is the primary factor for you not getting this promotion yourself. Only for these past few weeks have you only been showing up, which is great and all, but Annie as well as Sarah have continuously spent their time on the Teamspeak as well as on the server helping around and improving the relationships between all the staff members.

Aside from that, both you as well as Annie received an official for inactivity not too long ago. Both of you have improved on that front, so it's not a large issue, which is why Annie did in fact get owner.

SarahAnne has amazing lead team capabilites, helping the staff team improve and solving issues when they arise. I've noticed that myself after having spoken to her for many months now. I've spoken to you as of recently as well, and although I'm sure you do great, I've not noticed the same kinds of talents that I've seen from her. At least, not yet.

It's also a fact that Sarah has one of the longest staff experiences out of all of the Deathrun Lead Team members, being a former Deathrun Administrator before returning to the staff team. Not just that, she's always had good relationships with the community as well as the CM team. I know for a fact that that is what the CM team have seen from her as well, which is why she's been on their list for a possible promotion to Server Owner for a while now. In fact, had it not been for the fact that Sarah stated she did not have the time to run the server on her own, she would have owned Deathrun herself.

Annie, despite her being a Head Administrator for months now, still has a lot to learn. But her continuous dedication as a Lead Team member as well as her improvements over the last few months have shown a lot of trust and capabilities that are expected from a Server Owner candidate. With Sarah to guide her by her side, I am not worried for Deathrun's future in the slightest.

Now stop being a salty bitch stating that "there are better candidates." If you'd know the process of what goes into deciding who should be a server owner, you'd know you wouldn't have had any chance yet. Your activity has lacked in the past and I do not believe you've shown yourself enough yet to the community to warrant a promotion.

And once again, using the argument of "I've got an update for Deathrun", nobody from the CM team was aware of this. It's sad that you weren't able to contact them, but extremely arrogant to still suggest that the new owners don't deserve it when you've definitely not tried hard enough to even get the CM team's attention in the first place.

Now is exactly the time when you should show yourself as a great Lead Team member. Why? Because despite your disagreements with certain choices, you can now yourself to look past that and try to improve the server instead. And if you instead show yourself as an arrogant asshole who would rather have a promotion himself rather than improve this server, then you don't deserve a promotion to owner at all, let alone a Lead Team position.
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Edited 8 years 7 months ago by Raeker. Reason: Fixing mistakes
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751068

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Polsee wrote:
I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.
It's also a fact that Sarah has the longest Lead Team experience out of all of the Deathrun Lead Team members, being a former Deathrun SA before returning to the staff team.

false, she was admin before (correct me if im wrong) and this is polsee's second term as deathrun HA
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751082

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I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.
It's also a fact that Sarah has the longest Lead Team experience out of all of the Deathrun Lead Team members, being a former Deathrun SA before returning to the staff team.

false, she was admin before (correct me if im wrong) and this is polsee's second term as deathrun HA
Looked it up, guess I was lied to >.<

Anyways, fixed it. Thanks bud!
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751086

Let's give the moderators owner rank!!!!
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751093

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Polsee wrote:
I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.

I've also explained that your continuous inactivity on Teamspeak is the primary factor for you not getting this promotion yourself. Only for these past few weeks have you only been showing up, which is great and all, but Annie as well as Sarah have continuously spent their time on the Teamspeak as well as on the server helping around and improving the relationships between all the staff members.

Activity on teamspeak is more important that activity on the server itself?

www.gametracker.com/player/SarahAnne/play.zarpgaming.com:27035/

Sarah has barely even played on the server the past month. The only thing i would bring her up for is a demotion. I dont know how the deathrun deals with things but there must be an explanation for this horrible activity.

I wont talk about annie due to the fact that he is really sensitive.

Again as i dont play deathrun at all i got no idea of how things work there or what these individuals do so i cant really argue much about it.
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751115

What the fuck.


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As there's drama llamas about I will lock this as the majority have had their say. :side:
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Polsee wrote:
I just wanted to get something off my chest becuase this has been bugging me for awhile. I've already spoke to some people about my opinions on the whole situation, however I wanted to express it here as well. To be clear, this is just my personal opinions, so some people might disagree with me and that's totally fine.

Annie and Sarah, a very interesting choice... I have nothing against them, I just don't think that they deserve being owners. Don't get me wrong, they're both great staff members but they don't have any experience with servers (At least to my knowledge). I just find it weird to choose someone who doesn't know how to manage a server. They're both great at managing the staff team but that's basically it. The idea of a owner is someone who manages the server, adds new content and keeping the server in a "healthy" state. I don't think they're capable of that. I could be wrong here, they might surprise us in the future. Again.. No hard feelings but I just don't get it how Sarah was the best candidate for this position. She haven't been active for a while and I don't recall she have done anything for the server. This applies to Annie as well although she hosts the meetings and that's what she does.

JJ and I had planned an update for the server which I was going to implement on the server because most of the staff team was expecting me to get owner. I have a lot of experience with game servers and I have some basic C# knowlegde but I can't really make a script from scratch. Well at least not something useful for the server. I made a lot of changes to the new deathrun gamemode and fixed some issues as well. So I know how to change some coding and that basically it but that's better than not knowing anything at all. I'm aware that we have developers, so it's not necessary to know any coding language. I've also been fixing maps for the server for quite some time now, so I've at least tried to improve the gameplay on the server.

I feel like this should've been done in a different way. It could've been done similar to how they pick the community manager. Make a list of the suitable candidates and ask them if they would like to become the next owner. Then hold an interview for each of the candidates, ask them what they're capable of and then proceed from there. That would've been much better and would've been better for the server.

In conclusion they're probably gonna do an excellent job and I could be completely wrong but I don't think they deserved it compared to other candidates.

I've also explained that your continuous inactivity on Teamspeak is the primary factor for you not getting this promotion yourself. Only for these past few weeks have you only been showing up, which is great and all, but Annie as well as Sarah have continuously spent their time on the Teamspeak as well as on the server helping around and improving the relationships between all the staff members.

Activity on teamspeak is more important that activity on the server itself?

www.gametracker.com/player/SarahAnne/play.zarpgaming.com:27035/

Sarah has barely even played on the server the past month. The only thing i would bring her up for is a demotion. I dont know how the deathrun deals with things but there must be an explanation for this horrible activity.

I wont talk about annie due to the fact that he is really sensitive.

Again as i dont play deathrun at all i got no idea of how things work there or what these individuals do so i cant really argue much about it.
okay now I'm really confused what the fuck
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Regarding the new owners 8 years 7 months ago #751136

It's unbelievable how people in this community cannot take criticism, always locking the thread and shit like seriously grow the fuck up if you lock shit on the forums in real life hell good luck boy.

Back to the topic SarahAnne does literally 0 to help the server all she does is sit and a spacer with silentcall all day and it bugs me just like annie sitting in his spacer all day. Polsee has more experience than sarah and I'm talking waaaay more, he is a ex-headadmin from last year and was a HA when it was in a good state. These 2 owners don't know how to code which is first a mistake I thought we want people who can lead and teach since that is what a owner is basically a person who keeps everything in-line and adds stuff to the server, they also have the responsibilities to add stuff to the server and make sure it's alive and it has healthy content updates so far these people are going to have to ask the other server owners and ask them for help which I find completely idoitic. I'd also think they will make no effort to try learn a coding language, if they were forced annie I think would put the most effort in to actually learning it (If they were forced)

tl:dr this is the worst owner choice I've probably ever saw
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