TOPIC: [Suggestion] Vanilla server

Conflicted on this.

Like you mentioned, it's been suggested multiple times. They're not really going to change their mind.

I remember it being mentioned a while ago about this and it said that this has been done before, and that it really didn't pan out. Not sure if it was Chute himself who said that, or if it was mentioned in the general thread about Classic a while ago.

That said, their biggest grievance, and the reason they didn't go ahead with Classic, was because no-one wanted Classic if there wasn't going to be a new database used. Which the CM team weren't willing to do; don't remember their exact reasons but I think it was something along the lines of it being somehow problematic to implement.
Their idea of Classic was that it would basically remove a large number of items. They'd still be in your inventory, you just wouldn't be able to use them, or trade them.

I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think they're going to budge on it.

DANlEL wrote:

DANlEL wrote:
We did not "give up" on it - we asked the community for their opinion on it and everyone was on board until we made it clear that we would not be looking to do this on a separate database. People then decided they did not want it to be done in this way, so we deemed that the community did not want it in the way that we would, and so it is more worthwhile for us to focus on making improvements and updates to the servers we have currently.

TheXnator wrote:
I don't like the idea of a vanilla server too much but how would a vanilla server with the same database work? How would that be different to the normal server?

TheXnator wrote:
By improvning the current server hasen't lead to any good so far since the playbase is on a downfall, but people need to see the fact a new database on the Vanilla server will clear all economy, items, and suits will make the server more Clean also make it people have something to work on again but a different way.

People might say oh i lost everything but you really dont since you still have the orignial server to play on and all your work is saved. People need to see the fact of it. And that is the whole point to make a Vanilla server to clear everything from the start. That will bring much enjoy and satisfying

Also there is nothing says we cant continue anything on the vanilla server but make it different development/ updates from the previous updates that have made the server a bit cluttered

vitx wrote:
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Studio Banter wrote:
I did not say anything if is fun or not, but people are reading the forum see if something happens. But is your opinion but Zarp need a game change and need to see other perspective and not focus one thing to continue update on SSRP 1 & 3

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@Justice
Honestly, that's the issue. It wouldn't really change anything. See, I'd say there are two big things that are vital to the classic server, for the community to actually want it:

1) Exclusion of various "overpowered" items that ruin the immersion and fun for new players who just want to base, or old players who just want to recapture the classic feeling of basing. This includes, but is not limited to things like all power suits (cosmetic suits are fine), hand cannon, dynamite launcher, Dark Matter Gun, etc. Not 100% sure how people feel about Gluon.
Basically, everything that was in the rare case, blueprint case (no golden bps) and weapon case (milkor/m202/RPG/orb/etc are all manageable weapons in fights) is fine. It's what I'll call manageable raiding equipment, things that are counterable without there being a need for suits, and things that can turn the tide within two seconds. (Dripping with pretention, me)
There are some people who feel explosive weapons need to be removed outright, but that's another conversation.

2) And this is what turned everyone off when it wasn't something the CM team were willing to implement.
A new database.
One of the biggest problems in our community is the disparity between the old/veteran players who have shit tonnes of items and cash, and the new players who have... Well, nothing. They start out with 100k. You can do a bit with 100k, that's fine. But it also only gives you so many chances to get printing, planting or anything to earn cash - the majority of those things can be interrupted and ruined by older players, some of whom don't do it to get the money but simply to troll/bully new players.

I'm not saying that a new database doesn't mean that people will be better, or that everything will be fixed. It won't. It just levels the playing field, gives everyone a chance to start again, work their way up. That's part of the appeal of ZARP. The journey. The quest to be more or less a kingpin and stand at the top. Competing for supremacy, and a blank slate offers everyone that chance to stand at the top. Old and new.

People have said others might complain about losing everything (there's still the current server), and the lead team might not like the idea of implementing a classic server when they just wanna keep making new updates and improving upon things - but the option of a blank slate is so appealing to a lot of people.

So, to answer your query, even though it wasn't directed at me - it wouldn't be different. It's one of the two vital things that they've missed out, and it's not something people want to compromise on.

TheXnator wrote:
So when are you going to listen what the community wants rather than pushing your own ideas? Alot of members have probably spend more money than you have earned throughout the years. Dont you think they have some right of getting their ideas worked out?

No matter how much you suggest a new database, they won't do it.

what happened to your server

What happened to Vulpix man I was really hoping to see it

nty we will continue to add new cases with suits and items that gets people to buy booster packs.

Clarky wrote:
They won't do it or the community won't it? that is the question we need to ask ourself.

vitx wrote:
they are not going to do it, stop trying

vitx wrote: They won't do it
The community has made so many posts suggesting their fixes and opinions to make the server fun again but it's just something they don't want to focus on

zarp wrote:
thanks zarp