TOPIC: Message to ALL SSRP Staff Members...

Nafe wrote: bruh how you gonna call out the 13 admins

Butterman wrote: Cause some of these admins still think they can use their powers to spectate other admins

AlitGeorge wrote: Sorry man, i won’t spectate you next time

Still not as bad as people thinking they should be anti-cheating me...

Legendary Soldier wrote:
I only anticheat you as a beta form of spectating to get your rough location, sorry

Nafe wrote: Onion's on yo ass now

If this is the case then Xnator would not have been caught admin abusing, and still getting destroyed by a bald gun dealer. He would have gotten a warning at best, but even that is unlikely because a lead team member would not have seen it with his own eyes. Unless you're abusing on a daily basis you're likely to get away with it because no admins can record & spectate you now?

Removing this feature is a dumb idea itself; pressuring admins to follow rules is a good fucking habit that makes people aware that they can't abuse because someone without a life IRL will catch them. Of course, if you accidentally job abuse or whatever it shouldn't be seen as a big deal anyways.

I get that the player count is low but let's not start doing whatever sounds the better, consider implementing what works? Jesus christ...

Aspect wrote:
Personally I don’t mind staff spectating other staff on the grounds they suspect they’re abusing or have caught them in the act and report it to the lead team. Honestly it would be unfair to reprimand a whistleblower for ultimately catching someone who’s being silly with their powers.

Saying that I’m not too bothered about staff spectating other staff cause generally if you have nothing to hide then why care, I guess?

.uzi wrote: Just remove spec tool and add it for SA's and other higher ranks
i mean yeah dont let admins use it

ToBeHonest wrote:
The spectate tool is a valuable asset for admins. Being able to quickly watch a (possible) rulebreaker without him noticing you is very effective. Removing this feature would drastically decrease the efficiency of the staff team. We should instead put our energy into preventing the misuse of this tool.

Currently, I see two problems with this tool. The first problem is, that some staff members just don't know that spectating other staff members is strictly forbidden. Instead of publicly calling them out or making up harsher punishments, we should overall improve the staff training process to ensure that this doesen't happen by "accident". As I've participated in a lot of training sessions lately, I already see that this is improving. The lead team is way better at pointing this out now than back when I got trained a few months ago.

The second problem is the lack of logging. Currently, only HA+ can see log entries for the spectate command. This should at least be opened up to SA or even Admins. Of course, Admins would only be able to see spectate logs of other admins, same for SA's. As it is right now, admins can basically spectate anybody, when there's not HA+ online, so it's easy to get away with it.

The spectate command needs to be overhauled. Both in it's technical implementation and in a management perspective. The points I've brought up were just ideas, feel free to work on them if you don't like some aspects, but removing the spectate tool for admins is not the right way. Thanks for reading!

MartinGaming wrote: Either fix the staff team or remove the spec tool from admins =)

Some staff members still haven't learnt according to recent accepted reports

A Good Pianist wrote: Yes