TOPIC: TTT Rule update

Server Name:
TTT
Suggestion Title:
Add DNA Rule
How would it benefit the server:
Help players understand how DNA works/Staff too
Potential Issues/Exploits:
None that i can see
Additional notes:
Heres how the rule would work
Rule 2.5b – DNA Killing Reasons
As an Innocent or a Detective, when finding DNA on someone's body you need to walk up to the person and ask them why they killed that person before killing them. However, if the body was unidentified when it was found you can straight up kill the user that the DNA leads to.


Approved by raeker

I don't play TTT, but looks kinda cool !

Nah, u get karma penalty if u kill an innocent and it would make game longer, ttt rounds are long enough.

When even a Community Manager is unsure about the rule it is clear that a rule change is needed.

Smoje wrote: Smoje that is already the rule... it's just not clarified in the rules..

I honestly feel very 2 sided about this.

1.


2. You could have a perfectly fine reason to kill somebody and then die because of dna.

As it might look like i am way more against i do feel like the pro-argument is really important. In the end i do think the karma punishment does the job and killing on dna should go without any problems.

It should be that if you kill somebody with a valid reason (ex: self defence) that you post this in chat. Then if a detective or anybody with a scanner kills you it would be rdm as they should of checked the chat.(similar to the T traps rule) But of coarse then again the traitors could claim it was a valid kill aswell and it wouldn't go without any problems either.

Raeker wrote:
I don't play TTT but if Raeker supports I support.

I think the rule should specify that the killer needs to say his reason for killing the person in chat including their name and they have to ID the body to not be KOS on DNA.

I disagree, I don't think someone should always have to say in chat why they killed someone... that would be a waste of everyones time..

kewlkd111 wrote: You made this post around the fact that people need to ask why person A killed person B when they have dna...
That would waste way more time then explaining yourself when killing somebody. (keep in mind that you should only explain yourself when you aren't a traitor, as a T you will kill to many people to keep justifying it)

Just so everyone is properly aware, this rule already exists. It's a bunch of other rules mixed together. As most people are not aware of this and even a community manager got confused a week ago, I do believe a change is needed to clarify this.

I understand this is already an implied rule but I don't think it should be a rule at all, it just takes longer and allows a traitor to get away with so much if the bodies are id'd

So i think we all agree that a rule specific to DNA should be made as it is now more part of the 2.4 rule. (which states you need to question them)
I personnaly think that this or something in this line should be implemented:

When player A kills player B with a valid reason then player A should ID the body + explain his reasons in the public chat. When player A fails to do this and player C found DNA on the corps of player B then player C is justified to KOS player A.

Lowskii wrote: I don't see any reason to make the rule more complicated than it already is. The way it works now is fine - I've personally never ran into issues when questioning people - it just needs to be clarified.

Raeker wrote: Well i honestly just don't like the way it works now, I know its personnal but maybe others agree with me. In the end this will be decided in the LT meeting so im just hoping that people who share my opinion will vote for my suggestion over the current rule.

kewlkd111 wrote: Misunderstanding on my part. I thought sorle was saying that every time right after you kill another inno you have to type it out.

-support

I believe that having to go up to the person and ask him why, would ruin the detective role ,as he is already targeted by the traitors. Having to ask them gives them extra time to shoot and kill a detective or an innocent who picked up the DNA scanner also people without a mic will not benefit from this because sometimes explaining why you killed someone takes time and typing is even worse

This can be locked as the latest rule change resolves the issue. Finding DNA on an innocent's body is always killable as of last week.