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TOPIC: [SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes

[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616279

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Suggestion Title: Hacking Policy Change


How would it benefit the server:

With the current state of Hacking, players have multiple ones to choose at their arsenal which can bypass most anti-cheat's such as (CAC) Cake Anti Cheat most notably. Some are free, some cost money, but the most dangerous thing is they're more available than ever.

Players are bypassing the anti-cheat system, and unfortunately, no matter how good a anti-cheat is, certain hacks can always bypass it. The majority of players cheating now a days are going to more sophisticated hacks that can bypass anti-cheats, and have certain abilities to hide from detection such as Silent Aim. We need a change to our current policy, ours is too lenient and let's players get away with multiple chances, all at the same time ruining thousands of players experience.

Having a stricter, more modern policy that fits our Garry's Mod Community and Game in general is needed. It's time for a change that will allow players the chance to appeal, but be more strict.


My Proposed Policy Change

• On First Offense, a player will not be kicked, but permanently banned with chance to appeal.

To summarize my point here, a player that gets caught cheating after weeks of effort and research looking into the offense is a huge tax on staff time and resources. Hacking is a huge offense that affects thousands of players experience, and a permanent ban with chance to appeal will allow players to explain their actions and truly apologize when ready to do so.

• Proof of Hacking can only be received from an Anti-Cheat, this is how it currently is as you'll need anti-cheats to deal with hackers as it's how you screenshot them. We should change this to be more inclusive and allow anti-cheats that depict a players viewing angle changes multiples times while frozen as proof of hacking.

Players that are clearly hacking often when frozen, can change their viewing angle and move their screen while frozen. This is not possible at all, only in very rare occasions According to Chuteuk with an error. However, majority of the time the player is hacking and this is a clear way to detect players using cheats such as Aimware and Citizenhack. The changes with the viewing angle are due to the no recoil options on cheats according to Tyler,





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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616280

Leave the hackers alone they did nothing wrong
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616281

i think y0u wrote "an error" twice
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616289

Finally...
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616325

This is the exact same thing i suggested 1 month ago but still got denied.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616332

I don't see it happening, but :support:
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616338

Yes, yes, and yes.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616343

Hacking is the single worst thing you can do. Any community that doesn't issue instant permabans to hackers is practically inviting hackers. Good luck detecting citizenhack tho.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616344

Thank you everyone for your feedback.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616346

exrobite wrote:
Good luck detecting citizenhack tho.

Citizen hack has been detected multiple times at ZARP.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616349

Coutinroy wrote:
exrobite wrote:
Good luck detecting citizenhack tho.

Citizen hack has been detected multiple times at ZARP.

How can you do that with your non existent anti cheat
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616351

exrobite wrote:
Hacking is the single worst thing you can do. Any community that doesn't issue instant permabans to hackers is practically inviting hackers. Good luck detecting citizenhack tho.
Citizenhack has been detected by multiple people and even used to store variables for their menu on the lua global table allowing others to mess with their menu. The cheat also isn't external.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616353

I can ruin the """"RP""""" of multiple people by toggling my hacks out of anger and then get a kick telling me not to do it again.
I realise the ethos exists for a reason but it's beyond pathetic when it applies for hackers too.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616358

I agree completely
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616381

exrobite wrote:
Coutinroy wrote:
exrobite wrote:
Good luck detecting citizenhack tho.

Citizen hack has been detected multiple times at ZARP.

How can you do that with your non existent anti cheat
We've had many methods of catching CH users with our anticheat, some still work and some were patched, It's just not as easy due to the fact of it being a C++ cheat and what we get presented when a SA+ requests an anticheat upon someone.
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616497

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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616523

As someone who has hacked and been perma banned I fully support this. Hacks are too easy to obtain currently. It took me less than 20s to find this one below: (I do not use this, I learned my lesson)

If it took me 20s to find that one hack and believe me that site has many more, how long would it take a rule breaker to find one?
Most hackers just join once to be a minge then leave. Giving them a perma ban on first offense with the right to appeal will hopefully remove some of the one time hackers.

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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616529

Only one word for this , Yes
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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616531

Yea, Only Kicking A Hacker Doesn't Make Any Sense. Ban Them!

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[SSRP] Hacking Policy Changes 6 years 11 months ago #616552

Back in my days, Cheaters got permabanned

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