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TOPIC: PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding

PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #477826

PD Raid Timer:
So as far as I understand, multiple staff members consider raid timer as not applicable in the PD and some even stated that it was in the rules before being told about this. Now after having a thorough look through the rules, I haven't noticed anything related to such a claim. Some super admins and head admins even went on to state that if its not in the rules, then its allowed, even though in such a case there needs to be a stated exception just like there is for the bank and a base with a nuke in the cooldown explanation.
I'm hoping that this could be resolved and stated clearly in the rules.

Being allowed to raid a building base if it has raidable entities inside:
Now i've seen people doing this for quite some time now, even had multiple staff members state that this is allowed, even went on to hearing that a super admin is spreading the word of this "rule". I've taken this all the way to one of the head admins and explained the whole situation, due to the person responding I assumed it would be resolved in the near meeting, but it seems like that isn't the case, nor did it seem like there was much care to the problem, even though he stated that you must call an admin, rather than be allowed to raid.
Now whether this is allowed or not, which wouldn't make sense for it to be and it never was, there's nothing in the rules that states that you are allowed to raid a base with raidable entities, just a mention of no use of raidable entities in bases. That doesn't deem that base instantly raidable and the sign obsolete.
Hoping that this could be resolved swiftly as this is a matter that could affect the roleplay experience of all players since we consider health chargers to be raidable entities and no one wants to accidently have their building base they worked hard on be blown up due to chargers.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #477970

As for being allowed to raid people with building signs if they have entities inside there is nothing that states that you can do so and anyone saying you can is incorrect. If someone is using entities with a building sign the staff should be contacted as raiding the base would still be a rule break.

As for raid timer on the PD it doesn't apply. Raid timer only applies to bases and the PD is not a base. Currently people seem to enjoy the combat in the PD anyhow and no-one really complains about it. The reason for there being an exclusion on the bank and nuke raids is that it's common for people to put their own bases down in the bank and nukes are mainly launched inside your own base hence causing people to get confused as to if it is a base or not.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478510

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As for being allowed to raid people with building signs if they have entities inside there is nothing that states that you can do so and anyone saying you can is incorrect. If someone is using entities with a building sign the staff should be contacted as raiding the base would still be a rule break.

As for raid timer on the PD it doesn't apply. Raid timer only applies to bases and the PD is not a base. Currently people seem to enjoy the combat in the PD anyhow and no-one really complains about it. The reason for there being an exclusion on the bank and nuke raids is that it's common for people to put their own bases down in the bank and nukes are mainly launched inside your own base hence causing people to get confused as to if it is a base or not.
Thanks for the answer, just hope this could be clarified in the rules themselves to get rid of any further confusion among staff and players.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478517

They're already in the rules, if you have a building/RP house sign you can't have raidable entities inside and people cannot raid it. Maybe stating that there is no Raid Timer in the PD would be better though.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478638

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They're already in the rules, if you have a building/RP house sign you can't have raidable entities inside and people cannot raid it. Maybe stating that there is no Raid Timer in the PD would be better though.
I want it to be stated in the rules that you cannot raid it even if it has raidable entities, because multiple staff members and players believe this to be true and I doubt many of them will see this thread.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478645

5.4 Building Signs - If someone has a building sign, they should be left alone. If you want to check that they're not just using it as an excuse to print, give them 20 minutes then report it to an admin and they will check it for you. The house must be following rule 4.15 .
4.15 Building Signs - A building sign can only be used on a house in which you're building in at the time. You can't have any entities which includes health/armour chargers. Anything similar to "Building" will be counted as a building sign so you shouldn't use fake signs to try "Tricking" people. You're not allowed to place building signs on houses you don't own.

It's all very clear for the building sign.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478704

Nah dude, not needed at all. If you think they're a building base with a raidable entinty call a staff member.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478714

Jordz wrote:
Nah dude, not needed at all. If you think they're a building base with a raidable entinty call a staff member.
Coutinroy wrote:
5.4 Building Signs - If someone has a building sign, they should be left alone. If you want to check that they're not just using it as an excuse to print, give them 20 minutes then report it to an admin and they will check it for you. The house must be following rule 4.15 .
4.15 Building Signs - A building sign can only be used on a house in which you're building in at the time. You can't have any entities which includes health/armour chargers. Anything similar to "Building" will be counted as a building sign so you shouldn't use fake signs to try "Tricking" people. You're not allowed to place building signs on houses you don't own.

It's all very clear for the building sign.

But then you have these staff members who think that you can... I don't think you understand me.. I didn't bring this up because players are making that confusion, but rather because literally some staff members think that you can raid a spot with raidable entities even if its building. That's why I want it to be cleared up, because it could be spread around to the players. I made an f1 to have someone check a building base, they literally told me to raid it instead of doing anything to the guy and the guy himself tells me an SA told him its allowed.. :dry:

I myself completely understand that you must call an admin, but the thing is that some staff members don't.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478724

In cases like you mentioned feel free to contact a higher up. As for now feel free to add me and message me on Steam and talk to me about it.
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PD Raid Timer & Raidable Entity Raiding 8 years 6 months ago #478732

PD Raid Timer: you're correct there is no mention of it so I will get something sorted for it and get it added this weekend. It's not a server breaking issue so I won't just go ahead and change the rule I'll wait for the team to vote on it which is like 9.99% accepted because there would be no reason not to mention the bank.

Building Houses with raidables: No no and Nope! No building sign should ever be raided and I know you know this but just so you can link it to other I'll make it clear here.
Do not raid any building sign, if I catch you raiding one with or without raidables in it I will warn/punish the person doing it. If you suspect someone having something raidable inside a building sign base/house you need to contact a staff member or Screenshot, Video and Report! I will also be sure to fix the current Building sign rule and make it clear that there is no raiding with our without the raidables.
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