.uzi wrote:
Normally when someone continues to break rules we escalate the punishments and use bans where necessary.
I will use your example: a player joins the server and mass RDMs, he subsequently receives a warning and X amount of slays from staff member Y. If this player repeated their actions despite the punishment, in this case mass RDMs again and keeps messing around, I personally feel a short ban would suffice. Mass RDM, as you've explained is a serious issue for any TTT server. When somebody doesn't realise their mistake, whether its intentional or not, we can't outright ban people. We need to treat bans as a last resort tool for when all else fails.
But in the instances you've described - mass RDM and ghosting - they're possibly the most serious offences a player can commit on a TTT server besides cheating. We can escalate these punishments to bans if all else fails as a last resort, but I don't think we should prioritise bans over short-term punishments incase people do realise their mistake and they stop playing up.
I hope I've not made my response too confusing.
Reply to UZI + Johnler
Yes, but you may think this, if a player fails to read the rules, that is all their fault for being bad-mannered and not reading the server rules or having genuine game knowledge, if a player doesn't know after reading the rules what the gamemode is about then they should politely ask the players instead of unnecessarily breaking the rules.
This all summs up to the players fault for not reading the rules and I think that escalate punishments would be necessary, even if it's a shorter ban than after a warn I think a slay/warn is simply not enough, I feel a 2 hour ban for "Mass RDM, Read the rules + gain some game sense" should come into play in such a situation, instead of the warning + slay, as he might think. "oh wow this server sucks!" and just repeating the action and getting a 7 day ban which is a lot worse than a instant 2 hour short ban of sort.
As you've said, you should prioritize short-term punishments over long-term, but a 2 hour ban I would consider as a short-term punishment. This being implemented to TTT would be also helpful if implemented into SSRP as I myself, hate it when a guy comes on and thinks it's some sort of Team Deathmatch game and usually they say so in a sarcastic voice and no actual punishment can be taking against it other than a warning/slay in TTT + warn. Of course, implementing a short ban simply for the player to read the rules would be a lot more helpful and in my opinion, a lot better than a warning.
I'm sorry if it's confusing at all but, I'm pretty tired after today and on a everday basis I like to debate about things on the forums.