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TOPIC: [TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol

[TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 7 months ago #261504

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Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol

How would it benefit the server:

It would benefit the server balance-wise. "How?", you may ask. Well, as far as I know, the favorite weapon to use is, by far, the Shotgun on TTT. It isn't that overpowered, as it has limited use in range, but people can easily sneak up on somebody and kill them easily with a shotgun, and they won't be expecting anything, since traitors and invisible to innocents. I think everyone only uses something rather than a shotgun either if they are noobs to the server, or if they cannot find a shotgun, so they are stuck with the weapon they have. I think buffing the pistol, AK-47, and M4 would give players more choice over their weapons, and would eliminate the mentality: "The shotgun is OP".

First of all, the pistol. Who uses the Pistol, again? It does way too little damage and doesn't have good enough rate of fire. Hell, it doesn't even have that weird zoom in thing that the M4 has when it uses it's aim (Which I'll get to). My idea for a buff is quite simple. I don't think buffing the damage would be a good idea, as it has too many bullets, and is fairly accurate. I think a better idea would be to buff the rate of fire, because as far as I know, the pistol is the CS:S Five-SeveN, which had way better rate of fire on CS:S than it does on ZARP TTT.

Next, the AK-47. The AK-47 is one of the least used guns in TTT, and in my opinion is the 2nd least used, just ahead of the pistol. The problem with it is that it isn't really accurate like the M4 carbine, and it does way too little damage because it uses 9mm bullets. I never heard of a single AK-47 that uses 9mm bullets in my life. Could we please just be realistic here and buff the ammo of the AK-47 to the CS:S 7.62x51mm bullets, so it can do more damage? If it's impossible / a bad idea to the lead team to switch AK-47 bullets to 7.62x51mm, can we at least improve the rate of fire? The rate of fire is, again, better on CS:S (Noticing a weird trend here), and it would make it better.

Finally, the M4 carbine. I don't like it's really bad ammo choice, which is again, the 9mm bullet. Why do assault rifles use the same ammo as small caliber pistols do? Anyways, this has the same idea as the AK-47, just give it better ammo (In this case, it's the 5.56x45mm bullet, though we can still use 7.62x51mm bullets just so people don't need to go ammo hunting.), and if that's a bad idea / impossible, just give it a better rate of fire. However, I would also want a nerf to the M4, and that is removing it's really weird and unneeded zoom in ability. I didn't know assault rifles can zoom it without a scope. I don't know if this is meant to be a buff (It's a good one, but would be OP if we added better bullets), or just something resembling a SG 553 or AUG. So can we just remove this, and if that is a bad idea, can't we at least give the zoom in ability to the AK-47? Since the AK and M4 are basically the same gun, but with different models, and the M4 has a zoom in ability.

So, here is a list of changes:

Pistol
- Better rate of fire, because the pistol is so bad that no one likes using it

AK-47
- Better damage by changing the ammo to 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm, because 9mm ammo is unrealistic and stupid
- Adding the zoom in ability of the M4 if the M4 doesn't get it's zoom in ability removed, just so they can be balanced, since they're the same gun, but the M4 has the zoom in ability
- Buffing the rate of fire if the buff to the damage isn't accepted, just so some kind of buff is added

M4 Carbine
- Better damage by changing the ammo to 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm, because 9mm ammo is unrealistic and stupid
- Removing the zoom in ability, because it is an unneeded and stupid buff
- Buffing the rate of fire if the buff to the damage isn't accepted, just so some kind of buff is added


Reason
- To give more choice to the players, other than the Shotgun
- To eliminate the mentality: "The shotgun is OP"



Potential Issues/Exploits:

None, as far as I know

Additional notes:

-It is fine if not all suggestions are accepted, but a selected few.

- This list could go further, and could include the H.U.G.E., which is just dreadful.
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47 and M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 7 months ago #261507

I believe that the guns should be equal... Almost like communism but Hopefully the guns won't fail
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47 and M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 7 months ago #261570

Zax wrote:
I believe that the guns should be equal... Almost like communism but Hopefully the guns won't fail



Onwards towards the Victory of Communism!
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 7 months ago #261606

I think the M4 is fine, the ak should be buffed a little bit. The pistol needs to be switched/buffed. You forgot the MP5, I think its the worst primary in TTT, no one uses it.
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 7 months ago #261636

Blocked wrote:
we'll be working on balancing out the weapons during the next weeks or so, so don't worry about that!

Oh cool, I hope my suggestions get considered :)





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[TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 6 months ago #265863

I agree weapons need a buff
shotgun>everthing else
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47 and M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 6 months ago #266253

i didnt play zarp ttt but i will play it can someone give me ip of ttt of zarp ?
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47 and M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 6 months ago #266296

LordGaben wrote:
i didnt play zarp ttt but i will play it can someone give me ip of ttt of zarp ?
play.zarpgaming.com:27017
It's also just in the server browser, just search Zarp under the category Trouble in Terrorist Town and you'll find it.
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47 and M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 6 months ago #266339

LordGaben wrote:
i didnt play zarp ttt but i will play it can someone give me ip of ttt of zarp ?

P0rtalsh0oter got you the IP, though, I have no idea why you posted this in a suggestion thread, so can you post stuff that's on-topic in the future?
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[TTT] Buff the AK-47, M4 Carbine and Pistol 9 years 6 months ago #270164

Blocked and i decided to review the weapons and have decided to buff/nerf some of the features that you suggested, most of them should be balanced now.

Thank you for the report!
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