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TOPIC: [TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative

[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115685

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Suggestion Title: Removal of Defibrillator.

How would it benefit the server: The ghosting would be less.

Potential Issues/Exploits: People can spectate and see who's the traitor by just zooming over them and seeing who the traitor kills thus marking him as traitor. The detective can revive them and the person can just say who is the traitor (Even though the traitor didn't kill the person in the first place). This is just wrong.

That or make a rule saying that when you're revived, you can only say the name of the person that killed you.

Additional notes: Yes, I use the defib sometimes, but its getting annoying. Also, don't let Tom comment.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115691

Yeah, the defibrillator ghosting is very irritating. This should be a rule , but don't remove the defibrillator just make a rule to prevent ghosting.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115693

Well another problem with the Defibrillator is that if you are killed by someone you don't know by being sniped etc it will show who killed you, that means when you are revived you can just instantly call his name out yet you didn't see him shoot you.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115712

This is why I've been against defibs ever since they were suggested. They are broken in more ways than just coding. It gives clear unfair advantages, yet people look over the issues and only seem to think about the good things.

I am for removing the defib. Because even if there's a rule stating you can't tell other players who the T's are if you've died, you can still keep a close eye on them and shoot them whenever you want.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115714

Im not against the defib it is useful but some use it instead of testing sometimes that has to stop
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115715

Like I said from the start on, Defibs are made for traitors, makes the gamemode better and more interesting.
Fundamentally Walrus wrote:
Also, don't let Tom comment.

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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115718

Ghosting is a major issue with the defib. I suggest adding a rule that will stop this and would let staff warn player for it.
For example
1.9 Ghosting/Meta-gaming
Speaking through third-party software outside of the game gives players a unfair advantage, should you be speaking to other players inside of your game through, a third-party software, you must not disclose any in-game information. [I.e If you die, who you died by etc.] this also includes being resurrected through a defibrillator, you can only disclose who killed you alone through a resurrection by defibrillator.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115727

It needs to be removed because :
1 . We don't need more overpowered items for the Traitors , so we can't switch it to the T shop .
2 . It makes breaking the Ghosting rule extremely easy .

There's not really any alternative , because making it against the rules to Defib-Ghost would help a little , but that person who died then got revived is still going to know who one of the T's are . They're just not allowed to kill them off of that fact or tell anyone .
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115728

I was on at the time, when someone (not mentioning names) ghosted information while a spectator when he was revived. Once. I agree with wallcop that it should be specifically stated in the rules that this is not allowed. I don't know if this happened more often than this, but I don't think it will happen very often and I don't think the defib needs to be removed in order to fix this. Another solution would be that you would get a message in the middle of your screen when you get defibed, stating you are only allowed to disclose the killer's name.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115739

p0rtalsh0oter wrote:
I was on at the time, when someone (not mentioning names) ghosted information while a spectator when he was revived. Once. I agree with wallcop that it should be specifically stated in the rules that this is not allowed. I don't know if this happened more often than this, but I don't think it will happen very often and I don't think the defib needs to be removed in order to fix this. Another solution would be that you would get a message in the middle of your screen when you get defibed, stating you are only allowed to disclose the killer's name.

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It needs to be removed because :
1 . We don't need more overpowered items for the Traitors , so we can't switch it to the T shop .
2 . It makes breaking the Ghosting rule extremely easy .

There's not really any alternative , because making it against the rules to Defib-Ghost would help a little , but that person who died then got revived is still going to know who one of the T's are . They're just not allowed to kill them off of that fact or tell anyone .

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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115740

Switch it to the T shop. That would be way better and no ghosting.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115743

khaitam2001 wrote:
Switch it to the T shop. That would be way better and no ghosting.

No. What would be the point then. Reviving fellow traitors is just ridiculous.

You guys brought this up and you going to fix the mess yourselves.
I was always against the defib and you people just spammed it when it was unnecessary.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115745

Fundamentally Walrus wrote:
khaitam2001 wrote:
Switch it to the T shop. That would be way better and no ghosting.

No. What would be the point then. Reviving fellow traitors is just ridiculous.

You guys brought this up and you going to fix the mess yourselves.
I was always against the defib and you people just spammed it when it was unnecessary.
Okay. But the defib is just so awesome :(. I only use it to troll though. Those other tryhards are nub.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115750

Walrus, we wanted it to be a T 'weapon' not a D one, especially seeing the issues it causes. By the way, you could easily avoid traitors being infinitly defibbed by either giving it one use in the whole round (kinda like the bugged melonlauncher atm), or by hiding T bodies after you identify them.
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[TTT] Removal of Defib OR Alternative 9 years 4 weeks ago #115752

LZ Ace wrote:
Walrus, we wanted it to be a T 'weapon' not a D one, especially seeing the issues it causes. By the way, you could easily avoid traitors being infinitly defibbed by either giving it one use in the whole round (kinda like the bugged melonlauncher atm), or by hiding T bodies after you identify them.

That's why the melon launcher seemed to randomly have ammo or not. O.O

Edit: I wouldn't be bothered if it was removed. It's a nice added touch but if it causes ghosting problems then eh, get rid of it
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