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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 11 hours ago #1330867

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Suggestion Title: Change Alt Rules.

How would it benefit the server: Honestly I've been hearing every day that the economy is fucked, basically the prices are super expensive due to inflation and that there is alot of money in the economy. By saying this I've seen alot of Alts on the server aswell just to keep the ranking of the server high (Joshua does that alot)
Which I've got no problem with, but I do find a problem with the fact you can use Alts to mine rubys and convert them into gems, you can use alts to give yourself more printers. It clearly doesnt make sense that for example "YOU" can have 5 alts and make 50+ million gems a week with all these alts and you can even print millions of money and even uranium rods.
But you can't even do a drugrun item worth of a million. It gives anyhow a unfair advantage to the person who is using an alt account.
Instead of the suggestion to completely remove the alts for being used I think there should be a maximum usage of alts as 2 alts per player. (so your main and your 2 alts)

Why are you allowed to mine 50 million gems worth of minimal 2.5b in a week but you can't do a drugrun with 4 alt accounts of a million dollars. I get the daily objective, 5 accs fully done = 5 scus a week. But it is definetly an unfair advantage.77
Allow people also do drugruns with alts, allow them to mine gems, allow them to use printers but under a maximum amount of alts per account so that you can't abuse it by having 99 different alt accounts.

Potential Issues/Exploits: Unfair advantage against Users without alt accounts due to pc problems etc. Rule about the no alts in drugruns is bullshit to me

Additional notes:
Rather have a Alt limit per account than completely removing it, it would not really completely heal the economy but there is less chance of Inflation due to less alt usages.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 11 hours ago #1330868

+support

this will also bring miner related crime to an all time low :clap:
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 11 hours ago #1330872

its been like this for years there not changing it...
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 11 hours ago #1330873

I think this would be a good change for the server but the problem I see is that how are staff gonna know whos ALT is owned by who so I think that you need to think that through.

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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 11 hours ago #1330884

:plussp: Slow the inflation of the economy.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 3 weeks 10 hours ago #1330887

-Support
Been like this for years and years and it was never a problem, The money in the economy isnt the big issue of the inflation, Its the lack of items that people want (Aka Supply and Demand) Making it 2 alts per person wont do anything, Nor change anything half the people who print with more than 1-2 alts are never active and RARELY ever even have all the alts on, Hiro got like 5-6 alts on put down prints and lagged out and lost all of the printers etc. Even if he wouldnt of lagged out the base only lasted an hour making 200-300m total, The miners dont do much besides make the gem prices go down because their's so many gems in the eco Everyone wants to undersell the other to get them sold, AKA 2017-2018 gem updates gems were 120-150 per, 2021 Update 90 was over priced
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331060

Okay so me being a ex-staff multiple times and i've been around for many years on ZARP I can give this +support as time has gone on less and less people really had to "grind" which is what makes part of this game fun IN MY OPINION! because everyone has farmed up so much money, gems, suits, etc to where new players find out they can use ALT's and do the same or are given a fuck ton of shit and dont even really have to start of from scratch like how I did and many others did 5+ years ago. It would slow the economy down to where when suits and more items get "RIPPED" they arent as easy to grind back which WILL MAKE ECONOMY MORE STABLE! I really think this needs to be done as I know im just coming back after months of being gone I've thought this myself for ages now and the only thing I can say is either fully get rid of ALT usage or have a maximum count on player's ALT's somehow to where max they can have is 1 or 2 and if they have more it's punishable and the alts can be kicked/banned or whatever is needed to stop it. :plussp:

Hopefully someone gets the time to read this :P
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331061

This is a great suggestion, this way people wont be able to have all the fucking money in the world with no effort whatsoever. Economy can finally begin to stabilise, but then again people have been saying this for years as xNate said. :plussp:
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331066

then who am i gonna make mad by stunsticking their miners??
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331067

No, this would have helped 5 years ago. It's far too late to change anything about alts or even begin to think about "fixing" the economy. It will never happen, and has been suggested many times over the span of many years.

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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331068

Sam the Sausage wrote:
No, this would have helped 5 years ago. It's far too late to change anything about alts or even begin to think about "fixing" the economy. It will never happen, and has been suggested many times over the span of many years.

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better to start now then leave it to rot i say
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331071

its to far gone no point
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331077

As much as i want to see the downfall of JMT's alt, i doubt it's gonna happen.
As change like these should have happend many years ago.
I'm gonna plus support anyways in hope all of JMT's alt will be perm banned.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331079

Would have worked if it was changed a couple of years ago.

At this point, the economy is beyond saving. and the alts online help to boost the playercount.

Only a wipe would help, but we all know what the opinion from the cm team is about that.
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-Support
Been like this for years and years and it was never a problem, The money in the economy isnt the big issue of the inflation, Its the lack of items that people want (Aka Supply and Demand) Making it 2 alts per person wont do anything, Nor change anything half the people who print with more than 1-2 alts are never active and RARELY ever even have all the alts on, Hiro got like 5-6 alts on put down prints and lagged out and lost all of the printers etc. Even if he wouldnt of lagged out the base only lasted an hour making 200-300m total, The miners dont do much besides make the gem prices go down because their's so many gems in the eco Everyone wants to undersell the other to get them sold, AKA 2017-2018 gem updates gems were 120-150 per, 2021 Update 90 was over priced

The alts have been used for putting down more than 20+ printers for 1 person. Everyone started becoming retarded itemcollectors because they simply had to much money. Not just for mining the gems

People with all the items collecting dust in their inventories, lost interest in playing the server and just stopped playing.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331113

:minussp: This has been brought up countless times, and every time its the same answer.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331117

Damage has been done already changing the rule now won't change the fact people have been alt mining for years, I.e it wouldn't affect the economy
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331135

In general this suggestion is more like to change the rule about the fact that you cannot the retarded drugrun system with alts. It doesnt make sense.
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331147

you do realise that the statistic i gave you of "50m gems per week" was at best case scenario and not on average
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331148

Neilsen wrote:
you do realise that the statistic i gave you of "50m gems per week" was at best case scenario and not on average

That's without Lewis is java's afk miner slaughtering days and richards stun sticking antics (Which I like) :D
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[SSRP] Rulechange Suggestion 2 weeks 6 days ago #1331158

We do not currently have any plans to implement rules which would limit or remove the use of alternate accounts. On average, the users who make the most money are the ones who participate in the interactive elements of gameplay such as zone captures, casino vault raids, nuclear launches, etc. although mining gems has always been a good way for newer players to get started, it's definitely not the main source of money or items into the economy!
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