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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268584

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Suggestion Title: Arrestable Juggernaut Suits

How would it benefit the server: Yes, I understand some may consider this a wild suggestion. Many will hate this purely because they have Juggernaut Suits. But while other suits like the Mummy suit are incredibly powerful, a brand-new player can technically take down a player wearing this suit by arresting them. With the Juggernaut suit, the ONLY way to combat it is to fight fire with fire - new players have NO WAY to combat these people. Zero. The amount of times I have tried to arrest a player, then had them immediate equip the Juggernaut Suit, is ridiculous. It basically means that they can get away with anything they want. (unless of course another player wishes to put their items at risk too and have a massive fight, which isn't likely and almost never happens) Why does this have to be a feature? You already can't taze these suits, etc. so why make the ONLY option to shoot them down to death? It will be fairer to new players and do a great deal to bring relative balance to the server.

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Additional notes: Please think about this properly, even if you own a Juggernaut Suit.

EDIT: obviously if the suit was made arrestable, other changes would have to be made to the suit to balance things out better. My reasoning as I'm stating above is that the concept of an unarrestable suit simply makes the game unfair for most players and rife for abuse for all users (in the case of people insta-equipping it). Almost any other upgrade I can think of would be a suitable replacement.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268586

just rip the jugg
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268587

every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268588

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every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.

Then the juggernaut suit should get a different ability, or a limited time invincibility to being arrested or something. In my post I explain how this 'ability' ruins the core gameplay of police and DarkRP.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268589

Justice wrote:
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every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.

Then the juggernaut suit should get a different ability, or a limited time invincibility to being arrested or something. In my post I explain how this 'ability' ruins the core gameplay of police and DarkRP.
getting a jugg to take off is really not that hard
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268590

JoshuaIsGreat wrote:
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every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.

Then the juggernaut suit should get a different ability, or a limited time invincibility to being arrested or something. In my post I explain how this 'ability' ruins the core gameplay of police and DarkRP.
getting a jugg to take off is really not that hard

Don't quite know what you mean but my whole post is about how it's fundamentally unfair on inexperienced players. It's literally impossible for someone without super-powerful weapons to touch these people, as a result making it impossible to punish them for anything.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268591

Erm no, it's the only special thing about the jugg
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268592

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Erm no, it's the only special thing about the jugg

It still has plenty of health and armor. Give it a new ability if you need to, one that still makes them punishable by all players.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268593

Justice wrote:
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every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.

Then the juggernaut suit should get a different ability, or a limited time invincibility to being arrested or something. In my post I explain how this 'ability' ruins the core gameplay of police and DarkRP.

If you believe that the ability should be changed then make a suggestion going more into detail about that, your reasons for it and what changes should be made. and also the suits existed since 2016 (i think bad memory could be late 2015) and I really don't think it will be changed, currently it is one of the best suits however the purpose of it is to be a tanky suit and be unarrestable, I still really don't see it being changed though as it is fairly balanced (maybe not against someone without a suit but thats a different story about the state of items on ssrp).
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268594

When we were going over suits with the Community Council and making decisions on rebalancing them, suit abilities were taken into account - the ability of the Jugg also received a rating which affected the overall rating of the suit and other balancing changes around this, so I think a better course of action with this would be to wait and see what you think about it after balancing changes have been applied on the server, which will be in the next update, as this may change your opinion on whether any suits are too OP or not OP enough in comparison with other suits.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268596

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When we were going over suits with the Community Council and making decisions on rebalancing them, suit abilities were taken into account - the ability of the Jugg also received a rating which affected the overall rating of the suit and other balancing changes around this, so I think a better course of action with this would be to wait and see what you think about it after balancing changes have been applied on the server, which will be in the next update, as this may change your opinion on whether any suits are too OP or not OP enough in comparison with other suits.

Thanks for the reply. I'll certainly keep an eye out in the next update, but yeah this post is primarily about the unarrestable ability just being pretty unfair all around and rife for abuse on a conceptual level.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268610

DANlEL wrote:
let the jugg run then maybe this will get accepted lol

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Sorry for being an idiot but what does "let the jug run" mean?
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268611

Justice wrote:
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let the jugg run then maybe this will get accepted lol

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Sorry for being an idiot but what does "let the jug run" mean?

jug suit basically turns you into a snail you are slow as fuck and jump higher than normal.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268614

DANlEL wrote:
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let the jugg run then maybe this will get accepted lol

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Sorry for being an idiot but what does "let the jug run" mean?
What I'm saying is this would be kinda stupid because the jugg suit is slow as fuck and arresting it would be too easy (like giga easy with a gedf and bhop)

ah right ok I thought this was just some term I didn't know lol. I think it's a problem having a suit that makes you basically immune to police unless they're willing to put their own items at risk (regardless of it making you slow - maybe just speed it back up again or something)
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268618

how would you arrest somebody who's surrounded in like 7 inches of steel lol, the jugg is the biggest and slowest suit meaning if this were to implemented it would be incredibly easy to baton rush someone and rip an expensive item
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268642

Maddox wrote:
how would you arrest somebody who's surrounded in like 7 inches of steel lol, the jugg is the biggest and slowest suit meaning if this were to implemented it would be incredibly easy to baton rush someone and rip an expensive item

How are you going to arrest someone in almost all of the suits? The only one reasonably arrestable is the man wrapped in toilet paper. Of course if it was made arrestable other adjustments would need to be made to it.
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268660

Justice wrote:
JoshuaIsGreat wrote:
Justice wrote:
Spectrum wrote:
every suit has a special ability, the jug suits is being unarrestable, I really don't see this being accepted.

Then the juggernaut suit should get a different ability, or a limited time invincibility to being arrested or something. In my post I explain how this 'ability' ruins the core gameplay of police and DarkRP.
getting a jugg to take off is really not that hard

Don't quite know what you mean but my whole post is about how it's fundamentally unfair on inexperienced players. It's literally impossible for someone without super-powerful weapons to touch these people, as a result making it impossible to punish them for anything.
have you ever m249 sprayed a jugg?
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268662

this is stupid, its the only special thing the jugg has and is why its so loved as you can just relax in it, its also very easy to get one to take off just get one to around 800 which can be done in a few psgs shots B) B)
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[SSRP Suggestion] Arrestable Juggernaut Suits 4 years 11 months ago #1268664

DANlEL wrote:
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this is stupid, its the only special thing the jugg has and is why its so loved as you can just relax in it, its also very easy to get one to take off just get one to around 800 which can be done in a few psgs shots B) B)
No you need to get it to 1350

then it auto takes off B) B) B) B)
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