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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 9 months ago #1264285

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Suggestion Title: Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban/Permanent unban, unmarked policy that should be removed

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There's a certain trend currently for when appealing for an unban on a server, particularly a permanent unban, you have to show "improved attitude" by playing unrelated servers. While it's fair to punish for rule breaks and to issue permanent bans; I don't think it's fair to force people, especially those who only play one server, to be forced to play another server with its own set of rules and structure only to have a chance to be unbanned.

For the staff's perspective, it adds more unnecessary survelliance and resources that could be focused on the server.

It used to be that the appeal would be handled according to the appeal's contents, punishments and the time since the ban. However that isn't the case anymore as said above and should be looked into.

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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 9 months ago #1264586

DANlEL wrote:
its an excuse to keep someone banned when you have no valid reason to, not an unmarked policy

true, it only causes more frustration.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 9 months ago #1264587

I don't understand, it's not a requirement, it's a suggestion to the staff members handling the appeal of X perm banned player.
Yes it's very stupid, but i don't understand what exactly you suggest..
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 9 months ago #1264588

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I don't understand, it's not a requirement, it's a suggestion to the staff members handling the appeal of X perm banned player.
Yes it's very stupid, but i don't understand what exactly you suggest..

I suggest that the suggestion should be removed and only be confined within the one server.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 9 months ago #1264589

I think that this should really only be a suggestion if the person was banned for something that has to do with their attitude, such as constant disrespect, harassment, racism etc. Otherwise, this shouldn't really be used as a suggestion to players.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265351

Nikoo wrote:
I think that this should really only be a suggestion if the person was banned for something that has to do with their attitude, such as constant disrespect, harassment, racism etc. Otherwise, this shouldn't really be used as a suggestion to players.

You're given ample space to type out how you're sincerely sorry and whatnot. If you're banned for attitude problems and appeal with a substantial apology, I see no problem for an unban - of course the appeal depends on the severity and ban time spent. If you're unbanned and still cause problems, another ban strike is no issue.

I still stand with my suggestion to confine it to the one server.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265352

I will no play pointshop to show my improved attitude and get unbanned on discord
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265354

It's never been a requirement however it could have an influence on whether or not you will be unbanned.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265369

In no way shape or form have we ever tried to enforce players to play on other servers to make them show us their attitudes towards playing on an RP server have changed. We have used this wording to give an example for people who would like to show they have worked on their attitude. This means we are not forcing players to do anything we are just giving them an example of a way to show how they could show that they are ready to come back to the server.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265371

Spectrum wrote:
It's never been a requirement however it could have an influence on whether or not you will be unbanned.
let's be real whenever it's mentioned it's an absolute requirement
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265394

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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265405

Studio Banter wrote:
Nikoo wrote:
I think that this should really only be a suggestion if the person was banned for something that has to do with their attitude, such as constant disrespect, harassment, racism etc. Otherwise, this shouldn't really be used as a suggestion to players.

You're given ample space to type out how you're sincerely sorry and whatnot. If you're banned for attitude problems and appeal with a substantial apology, I see no problem for an unban - of course the appeal depends on the severity and ban time spent. If you're unbanned and still cause problems, another ban strike is no issue.

I still stand with my suggestion to confine it to the one server.

Anyone can just type out words and say that they're sorry, it's a lot easier to trust someone and know they have changed when they can actually show it. I don't force people to, and sometimes it's not needed, but I think it's a good recommendation. Instead of just denying them and saying wait 3 months, we say that if they can show a better attitude then we can unban them much sooner. It dosen't have to be on another server, it could be on TS, Discord, the Forums. Anything is better than nothing,

I do agree that it shouldn't be used as a requirement so anyone using it as such should probably stop, but just suggesting it is fine imo.
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[All Servers] Playing Unrelated Servers for Unban 3 years 8 months ago #1265460

This rule should only be a thing to copper
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