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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198780

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No amount of grind should give you a weapon that is better than anything else
That is detrimental to an ONLINE MULTIPLAYER GAME
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198793

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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198794

TheFierceOwl wrote:
Longshot wrote:
No amount of grind should give you a weapon that shits on everything else lmao
Your logic is extremely flawed
"I played 200 hours on the server therefore I deserve a weapon that is better than absolutely everything else"

In a multiplayer game , that's deteriorating
so if u were asked to delete your inventory in ssrp you would? Because it " shits on everything else lmao " ? No you wouldnt . Yes ofcourse they must have an advantage and hanz said they are terrible at long range not to mention unusable so thats a disadvantage while other guns example AK have range just less damage and less rate OBVIOUSLY they need to encourage players to play more to have more activity . My point is flawed . You are too stubborn to debate .
Like I dont understand this argument. This isnt some FPS like CSGO were you are allowed to shoot at the person instantly as soon as you see them and neither is it a fucking RPG were you grind your gear(and even in those 2 genres the leading games in their genres take a long time with balancing stuff) and even in RPG games like Destiny or World of Warcraft having good gear doesnt give you a free ticket to be just an absolute god at the game. You still have to learn the class you are playing and lets face it, the people using this weapon just cheese through the game basically and dont even learn how to properly use other weapons, simply because they dont need to.

This is a game of deceit where you have to find out who you can trust and who you cant. You could basically make the harpoon free for those people and let them use it infinitly and it would make no difference (except that some dumbasses like me would still not hit). That is literally the point the fn has reached and for all of the people that say "Ohh BuT itS weAk On RAnGe" bullshit, that shit can be used as a sniper as well and is pretty consistent on long ranges (I am sorry that it aint as accurate as a literal sniper designed for it, but it is still pretty acurate and you can get people with ease) and as longshot said that there are other high level weapons that are fine and people dont complain about them.

I agree with longshot on this topic that no matter what, you shouldnt be able to get a weapon that every monkey could use and kill half the server with it, just by simply playing long enough on the server, which having this weapon on the server and people actually using and ruining your fun on the server is not something a lot of people will stick through.

I dont see the point of adding the same weapon over and over and over again. There are pretty much 7 ak/hk clones that are pretty much the same, with the only difference of having minor different stats. Why cant we just get UNIQUE weapons that actually make fun to play and actually have different playstyles, rather than having basically the same weapon over but just with a different model and slightly different stats.

I talked with people about this, for example you could bring back the semi-auto G3. You dont need to as much HS damage as it had back then, but just playing with it felt completly different than just spraying and it was actually rewarding killing people with it sometimes due to the difficulty of having to hit a headshot and having to tap it.
I really liked the bow as well, even with the glitches and I would have really like to have it still on the server (You could keep the glitches for those people that were actually dedicated to learn how to use them, would have given the good player on the server some recognition for training this, something as the same with bhop in csgo), but sadly it was just horribly broken to the point where it was unusable and it was pretty hard hitting something by standing still and rather impossible to hit something while you were moving.
Why cant we just have few unlockables, but instead make them somewhat unique.

Some other things I wanted to mention.

Its really not difficult to reach p2 its just time consuming, the difference between making something difficult and making something time consuming is that making something difficult actually takes SKILL to overcome the challenge presented and making something time consuming does not require skill in any sort, it just requires you to stick through with it.

Other thing, I dont know how you feel about it, but as someone who recently started playing ssrp from time to time (Darling wants me to play it with him and forces me into his gang help) I dont like playing against people that have all the op stuff. I played as SWAT the other day and someone was raiding the casino vault, I went there and got instantly gluoned with no possible way to fight back for me as a new player that literally has either the weapons you spawn as SWAT/Police/etc or some other weapons that I had bought as a weapon dealer.
Other example I have regarding SSRP is, I tried playing normally once and literally got raided every 10 minutes and there was no way for me to fight back. I knew jack shit about the gamemode and people came bursting in with their grenades and fucking rocket launchers and bursted me down with miniguns. What the fuck am I supposed to do? I lost more money that whole day and ended up stop playing SSRP, because I didnt wanted to buy booster packs to maybe have a chance of getting some good weapons (I dont know if this is how it exactly works, as I said I rarely play SSRP).

Getting into SSRP on your own is very difficult and for someone who rarely plays RP by itself and other servers that make it easier for newer players to get into the gamemode, why would I choose this server then?I have literally only been able to enjoy SSRP, because I had someone that played it for a bit longer and helped me out a bit

I dont want the same for TTT to be honest. The majority of the people that come on TTT are players that are just server hoping and they end staying on TTT for some weeks to months, because we have a good player base and are more friendly for people that freshly joined. Having a weapon like the FN or the TTV (the TTV is pretty cancer as well, but not as bad as the FN) and people actually using those weapon make me fear that they just end up leaving, because they feel like I have to at least put in 200+ hours into this server before even being able to properly do something against those people, which lets face it is not something a lot of people will go through
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198796

TheRealNepgear wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Longshot wrote:
No amount of grind should give you a weapon that shits on everything else lmao
Your logic is extremely flawed
"I played 200 hours on the server therefore I deserve a weapon that is better than absolutely everything else"

In a multiplayer game , that's deteriorating
so if u were asked to delete your inventory in ssrp you would? Because it " shits on everything else lmao " ? No you wouldnt . Yes ofcourse they must have an advantage and hanz said they are terrible at long range not to mention unusable so thats a disadvantage while other guns example AK have range just less damage and less rate OBVIOUSLY they need to encourage players to play more to have more activity . My point is flawed . You are too stubborn to debate .
Like I dont understand this argument. This isnt some FPS like CSGO were you are allowed to shoot at the person instantly as soon as you see them and neither is it a fucking RPG were you grind your gear(and even in those 2 genres the leading games in their genres take a long time with balancing stuff) and even in RPG games like Destiny or World of Warcraft having good gear doesnt give you a free ticket to be just an absolute god at the game. You still have to learn the class you are playing and lets face it, the people using this weapon just cheese through the game basically and dont even learn how to properly use other weapons, simply because they dont need to.

This is a game of deceit where you have to find out who you can trust and who you cant. You could basically make the harpoon free for those people and let them use it infinitly and it would make no difference (except that some dumbasses like me would still not hit). That is literally the point the fn has reached and for all of the people that say "Ohh BuT itS weAk On RAnGe" bullshit, that shit can be used as a sniper as well and is pretty consistent on long ranges (I am sorry that it aint as accurate as a literal sniper designed for it, but it is still pretty acurate and you can get people with ease) and as longshot said that there are other high level weapons that are fine and people dont complain about them.

I agree with longshot on this topic that no matter what, you shouldnt be able to get a weapon that every monkey could use and kill half the server with it, just by simply playing long enough on the server, which having this weapon on the server and people actually using and ruining your fun on the server is not something a lot of people will stick through.

I dont see the point of adding the same weapon over and over and over again. There are pretty much 7 ak/hk clones that are pretty much the same, with the only difference of having minor different stats. Why cant we just get UNIQUE weapons that actually make fun to play and actually have different playstyles, rather than having basically the same weapon over but just with a different model and slightly different stats.

I talked with people about this, for example you could bring back the semi-auto G3. You dont need to as much HS damage as it had back then, but just playing with it felt completly different than just spraying and it was actually rewarding killing people with it sometimes due to the difficulty of having to hit a headshot and having to tap it.
I really liked the bow as well, even with the glitches and I would have really like to have it still on the server (You could keep the glitches for those people that were actually dedicated to learn how to use them, would have given the good player on the server some recognition for training this, something as the same with bhop in csgo), but sadly it was just horribly broken to the point where it was unusable and it was pretty hard hitting something by standing still and rather impossible to hit something while you were moving.
Why cant we just have few unlockables, but instead make them somewhat unique.

Some other things I wanted to mention.

Its really not difficult to reach p2 its just time consuming, the difference between making something difficult and making something time consuming is that making something difficult actually takes SKILL to overcome the challenge presented and making something time consuming does not require skill in any sort, it just requires you to stick through with it.

Other thing, I dont know how you feel about it, but as someone who recently started playing ssrp from time to time (Darling wants me to play it with him and forces me into his gang help) I dont like playing against people that have all the op stuff. I played as SWAT the other day and someone was raiding the casino vault, I went there and got instantly gluoned with no possible way to fight back for me as a new player that literally has either the weapons you spawn as SWAT/Police/etc or some other weapons that I had bought as a weapon dealer.
Other example I have regarding SSRP is, I tried playing normally once and literally got raided every 10 minutes and there was no way for me to fight back. I knew jack shit about the gamemode and people came bursting in with their grenades and fucking rocket launchers and bursted me down with miniguns. What the fuck am I supposed to do? I lost more money that whole day and ended up stop playing SSRP, because I didnt wanted to buy booster packs to maybe have a chance of getting some good weapons (I dont know if this is how it exactly works, as I said I rarely play SSRP).

Getting into SSRP on your own is very difficult and for someone who rarely plays RP by itself and other servers that make it easier for newer players to get into the gamemode, why would I choose this server then?I have literally only been able to enjoy SSRP, because I had someone that played it for a bit longer and helped me out a bit

I dont want the same for TTT to be honest. The majority of the people that come on TTT are players that are just server hoping and they end staying on TTT for some weeks to months, because we have a good player base and are more friendly for people that freshly joined. Having a weapon like the FN or the TTV (the TTV is pretty cancer as well, but not as bad as the FN) and people actually using those weapon make me fear that they just end up leaving, because they feel like I have to at least put in 200+ hours into this server before even being able to properly do something against those people, which lets face it is not something a lot of people will go through

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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198797

TheRealNepgear wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Longshot wrote:
No amount of grind should give you a weapon that shits on everything else lmao
Your logic is extremely flawed
"I played 200 hours on the server therefore I deserve a weapon that is better than absolutely everything else"

In a multiplayer game , that's deteriorating
so if u were asked to delete your inventory in ssrp you would? Because it " shits on everything else lmao " ? No you wouldnt . Yes ofcourse they must have an advantage and hanz said they are terrible at long range not to mention unusable so thats a disadvantage while other guns example AK have range just less damage and less rate OBVIOUSLY they need to encourage players to play more to have more activity . My point is flawed . You are too stubborn to debate .
Like I dont understand this argument. This isnt some FPS like CSGO were you are allowed to shoot at the person instantly as soon as you see them and neither is it a fucking RPG were you grind your gear(and even in those 2 genres the leading games in their genres take a long time with balancing stuff) and even in RPG games like Destiny or World of Warcraft having good gear doesnt give you a free ticket to be just an absolute god at the game. You still have to learn the class you are playing and lets face it, the people using this weapon just cheese through the game basically and dont even learn how to properly use other weapons, simply because they dont need to.

This is a game of deceit where you have to find out who you can trust and who you cant. You could basically make the harpoon free for those people and let them use it infinitly and it would make no difference (except that some dumbasses like me would still not hit). That is literally the point the fn has reached and for all of the people that say "Ohh BuT itS weAk On RAnGe" bullshit, that shit can be used as a sniper as well and is pretty consistent on long ranges (I am sorry that it aint as accurate as a literal sniper designed for it, but it is still pretty acurate and you can get people with ease) and as longshot said that there are other high level weapons that are fine and people dont complain about them.

I agree with longshot on this topic that no matter what, you shouldnt be able to get a weapon that every monkey could use and kill half the server with it, just by simply playing long enough on the server, which having this weapon on the server and people actually using and ruining your fun on the server is not something a lot of people will stick through.

I dont see the point of adding the same weapon over and over and over again. There are pretty much 7 ak/hk clones that are pretty much the same, with the only difference of having minor different stats. Why cant we just get UNIQUE weapons that actually make fun to play and actually have different playstyles, rather than having basically the same weapon over but just with a different model and slightly different stats.

I talked with people about this, for example you could bring back the semi-auto G3. You dont need to as much HS damage as it had back then, but just playing with it felt completly different than just spraying and it was actually rewarding killing people with it sometimes due to the difficulty of having to hit a headshot and having to tap it.
I really liked the bow as well, even with the glitches and I would have really like to have it still on the server (You could keep the glitches for those people that were actually dedicated to learn how to use them, would have given the good player on the server some recognition for training this, something as the same with bhop in csgo), but sadly it was just horribly broken to the point where it was unusable and it was pretty hard hitting something by standing still and rather impossible to hit something while you were moving.
Why cant we just have few unlockables, but instead make them somewhat unique.

Some other things I wanted to mention.

Its really not difficult to reach p2 its just time consuming, the difference between making something difficult and making something time consuming is that making something difficult actually takes SKILL to overcome the challenge presented and making something time consuming does not require skill in any sort, it just requires you to stick through with it.

Other thing, I dont know how you feel about it, but as someone who recently started playing ssrp from time to time (Darling wants me to play it with him and forces me into his gang help) I dont like playing against people that have all the op stuff. I played as SWAT the other day and someone was raiding the casino vault, I went there and got instantly gluoned with no possible way to fight back for me as a new player that literally has either the weapons you spawn as SWAT/Police/etc or some other weapons that I had bought as a weapon dealer.
Other example I have regarding SSRP is, I tried playing normally once and literally got raided every 10 minutes and there was no way for me to fight back. I knew jack shit about the gamemode and people came bursting in with their grenades and fucking rocket launchers and bursted me down with miniguns. What the fuck am I supposed to do? I lost more money that whole day and ended up stop playing SSRP, because I didnt wanted to buy booster packs to maybe have a chance of getting some good weapons (I dont know if this is how it exactly works, as I said I rarely play SSRP).

Getting into SSRP on your own is very difficult and for someone who rarely plays RP by itself and other servers that make it easier for newer players to get into the gamemode, why would I choose this server then?I have literally only been able to enjoy SSRP, because I had someone that played it for a bit longer and helped me out a bit

I dont want the same for TTT to be honest. The majority of the people that come on TTT are players that are just server hoping and they end staying on TTT for some weeks to months, because we have a good player base and are more friendly for people that freshly joined. Having a weapon like the FN or the TTV (the TTV is pretty cancer as well, but not as bad as the FN) and people actually using those weapon make me fear that they just end up leaving, because they feel like I have to at least put in 200+ hours into this server before even being able to properly do something against those people, which lets face it is not something a lot of people will go through
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198799

Lmao [ Click to expand ]

His argument doesnt really apply to TTT and that newer people just get angry at this weapon, because it is such a pain in the ass to deal with, and telling people the difference between making something difficult and something time consuming
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198805

I'm close to unlocking this so no :)))))))))))
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198806

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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198816

jenkshouse1 wrote:
I'm close to unlocking this so no :)))))))))))
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198825

In case you didnt realise , that was a joke
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198835



For people that say this gun is not OP , thanks

Also sorry about the noise , my laptop is loud as fuck
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198865

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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198866

:support: More work for Jim :)
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198953

Just get good at the game lol
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198954

Devy wrote:
Just get good at the game lol
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For people that say this gun is not OP , thanks

Also sorry about the noise , my laptop is loud as fuck
silent in the background asking everyone if their fridge is running... hella good distraction :woohoo:
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198977

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Devy wrote:
Just get good at the game lol
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1198994

I don't understand the "you should be rewarded" argument. Nerfing the gun doesn't take it away from you. If anything, i feel in its current state the prestige rewards are worse, because after you get F2000 the other guns are not rewarding at all. Unless of course you don't consider the strenght of the gun as a reward, but then the whole point that F2000 shouldn't be nerfed because its a reward falls flat.
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[TTT]Nerf the F2000 4 years 1 month ago #1203795

ya'll complaining about the f2k and yet the MP40 and M4A1 have the exact same damage stats, dealing 51 on head /shrug
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