TOPIC: Should We remove Murder?

Nick0GR wrote: It is generally an unfun gamemode which is proven by the low playercount. Therefore its dead and it won't get more alive even if people suggested things.

replace it with a rp gamemode because we're totally gonna roleplay

Kyber wrote:
It’s not that unpopular really, some days ago I joined it her servers to see what they did tha we were doing wrong. They had 20 players and we didn’t.

So I saw that one of the most popular servers offered a change, x2 murderers. People would like something like that. It’s not how to improve the server from the inside, it’s from the outside. We have to find a way to attract people to our server. To choose us, not the others. I believe if we added some special things, like, x2 murderers or loot cases that give you knife skins, people will begin to choose us over the rest

BDnico17 wrote:
just accept the fact already, jeez.
Murder is dead wherever you like it or not. If an avarage of 10 people play murder a day (which is quite much) then it is by definition dead.

BDnico17 wrote:
adding more stuff won't attract players, exhibit case: TTT

Jacknelli wrote: just replace SSRP with PERP

Studio Banter wrote:
Not saying to add lots of stuff, I’m saying we have to do something unique to attract players

Agreed

I mean murder is a fun gamemode however not the way it is here. You cannot play thos gamemode if you do not have a minimum of 5 players or it's not fun. And if you have 10 or more players it's also not fun because the gamemode is badly configured. If you have 10+ players the green pickups spawn too rarly and out of 10 games 10 times no one can get 5 to get a gun. Also the spawn points on some maps are configered badly. There is a map where 3-4 can spawn in the same room. Now emagine the bystender with the only gun getting in there. He gets killed and the only way to get a gun is by picking up the droped ones as the green boxes are not an option. This server can only be played if it's dead and that is why it's dead.

SkeletonWarrior wrote:
Regarding what you said, you have to options to get the gun:

You either get lots of green things, which should spawn more and more as more players joined.
Or you wait for the gunman to die and you take his weapon.

I agree, there are lots of things that have to be fixed maybe, but we could make it a great server, if we had someone to code

BDnico17 wrote: Great murder servers do not exist no matter how much shit you add. Murder is a niche game mode and just isn't popular, its the game itself not the server. Its only fun with around 7 people anyway because otherwise it can be boring due to the lower chance of being the murderer so its better off being as dead as it is.

Miia wrote:
As unpopular as it is, servers have around 20 players. I agree, this means lower chance on getting murderer, that’s why I suggest double murderer if the server has more than 10-15 people. Zarp is a good and big community, I’m sure that if we made some changes, we could get the server to the top

BDnico17 wrote: Sure Zarp is a big community but most of zarp hate murder and would rather see it replaced. As for double murderer yeah it would make the chance of being the murderer increase, however Zarp murder can not bring in the required amount of players for it to happen.

Miia wrote:
Thing is, between the following servers, what choose?

- server 1 fastDL
- server 2
- server 3 / x2 murderers / csgo skins

Thing is, it’s not to make it more fun but to attract players

I mean, if you remove murder you might as well go and remove Deathrun as it's player count is shit as well.

BDnico17 wrote: Double murderer will not attract more people to the server tho because it will never happen. We don't have a high enough player count to make it work and if we added it it would still just be those 2-3 newbies that leave after a round and never come back. If there were consistently 15+ players then sure add it but we don't have those numbers.

Miia wrote:
I mean, our numbers right now are 7 players at max, but, maybe if we added this, more people would join in

Btw keep in mind this is not an argument, just a discussion (avoiding misinterpretations)

BDnico17 wrote: Exactly, there are like 7 players at max so who is actually gonna see this double murder feature to be attracted to the server? It will never happen so no one will give a fuck about it.

Just remove it and instead put in something better like a server 2 for TTT or a completely different gamemode that is popular in the gmod comunnity and let the staff keep their rank in the next gamemode and if they don't like it they can resign or whatever. Like yea you would have to go through all the shit of starting from nothing but it would be worth it. Murder is just a dead server that gets it spike of players from time to time.

I played murder, whenever you get Murderer, you get these dumb power rounds, the server has an average of like 4 players, a replacement with Jailbreak or Basewars would be better.