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Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely I guess the rule could be changed from- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. To- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. - Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester Then again, this could be considered too vague because there is no concrete example. And because of that I feel like it is fine enough as it is, unless you can come with a better suggestion. - Attempting to obstruct diamond blocks from reaching the furnace. |
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Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely While I understand your point, if we were talking about every "little" detail of text, we'd be adding an entire wall of things, the rules for some are long enough, and for the casual player won't care as it is, you can't honestly expect someone to want to read a wall of text when the majority of it is all about subsections, like how SSRP has it's Jobs. While I understand that for them it's necessary, this is one of those things that if we ended up having to do, people wouldn't want to read them in the least bit. They can get a warning which leads to them leading about it, and that's literally how some players learn cause they can't stand reading walls of text describing every nook and cranny of a single section of the rules. Common sense shouldn't be that hard for people to do, and if you're saying people can't use their brain in the slightest to realize that in this case "Hiding the golden block" and the fact that the rule says "Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots." They both in fact fall underneath being a traitorous act. I understand clarity, but this isn't rocket science either. |
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Raeker wrote:
Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely I guess the rule could be changed from- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. To- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. - Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester Then again, this could be considered too vague because there is no concrete example. And because of that I feel like it is fine enough as it is, unless you can come with a better suggestion.- Attempting to obstruct diamond blocks from reaching the furnace. Sounds good. The diamond block one seems clear as it is, however. I'd recommend changing it to either your suggestion or - Attempting to hide the Golden block from innocents/detectives Also makes sure no smartypantses come crying like "But admiiiin, I didn't throw it so it was a false kos"- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents/detectives Bezzy wrote: Ace wrote:
I know, I'm on the same page as you guys when it comes to common sense but if the phrasing of the rule leads to discussions regularly it's better to simply rephrase it. The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely While I understand your point, if we were talking about every "little" detail of text, we'd be adding an entire wall of things, the rules for some are long enough, and for the casual player won't care as it is, you can't honestly expect someone to want to read a wall of text when the majority of it is all about subsections, like how SSRP has it's Jobs. While I understand that for them it's necessary, this is one of those things that if we ended up having to do, people wouldn't want to read them in the least bit. They can get a warning which leads to them leading about it, and that's literally how some players learn cause they can't stand reading walls of text describing every nook and cranny of a single section of the rules. Common sense shouldn't be that hard for people to do, and if you're saying people can't use their brain in the slightest to realize that in this case "Hiding the golden block" and the fact that the rule says "Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots." They both in fact fall underneath being a traitorous act. I understand clarity, but this isn't rocket science either. |
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Ace wrote:
Raeker wrote:
The difficult thing is that there is an easy way to obstruct the blocks from reaching their destinations without hiding the blocks, yet it's just as KOSable. Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely I guess the rule could be changed from- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. To- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. - Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester Then again, this could be considered too vague because there is no concrete example. And because of that I feel like it is fine enough as it is, unless you can come with a better suggestion.- Attempting to obstruct diamond blocks from reaching the furnace. Sounds good. The diamond block one seems clear as it is, however. I'd recommend changing it to either your suggestion or - Attempting to hide the Golden block from innocents/detectives Also makes sure no smartypantses come crying like "But admiiiin, I didn't throw it so it was a false kos"- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents/detectives |
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Raeker wrote:
Ace wrote:
Raeker wrote:
The difficult thing is that there is an easy way to obstruct the blocks from reaching their destinations without hiding the blocks, yet it's just as KOSable.Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely I guess the rule could be changed from- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. To- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. - Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester Then again, this could be considered too vague because there is no concrete example. And because of that I feel like it is fine enough as it is, unless you can come with a better suggestion.- Attempting to obstruct diamond blocks from reaching the furnace. Sounds good. The diamond block one seems clear as it is, however. I'd recommend changing it to either your suggestion or - Attempting to hide the Golden block from innocents/detectives Also makes sure no smartypantses come crying like "But admiiiin, I didn't throw it so it was a false kos"- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents/detectives - Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. - Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. To -Attempting to hide/delay the Gold and Diamond blocks from reaching the Tester/Furnace |
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Raeker wrote:
Ace wrote:
Raeker wrote:
The difficult thing is that there is an easy way to obstruct the blocks from reaching their destinations without hiding the blocks, yet it's just as KOSable.Ace wrote:
The rules should be crystal clear and lead to no discussion about whether something is allowed or not. You can't count on every staff member to have 'common sense' anymore. Editing a piece of text isn't too hard, surely I guess the rule could be changed from- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots. To- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents. - Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester Then again, this could be considered too vague because there is no concrete example. And because of that I feel like it is fine enough as it is, unless you can come with a better suggestion.- Attempting to obstruct diamond blocks from reaching the furnace. Sounds good. The diamond block one seems clear as it is, however. I'd recommend changing it to either your suggestion or - Attempting to hide the Golden block from innocents/detectives Also makes sure no smartypantses come crying like "But admiiiin, I didn't throw it so it was a false kos"- Attempting to hide diamond blocks from innocents/detectives I'm not too familiar with the minecraft map when it comes to the loopholes and tricks it offers. If you're right then your suggestion is better. |
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