TOPIC: [TTT] Rule Suggestion

After reading the rules, I've noticed there are no "map specific" rules. Seeing as the server is currently running 24/7 ttt_minecraft_b5, and after playing it for ages now, I've come to the conclusion that there are a few unwritten rules about the map that some players may be unfamiliar with, or have disagreements on.

-Hiding the golden block.
By far the most controversial action would be hiding the golden block, which activates the tester. I've heard people it's not KOS'able, others say it's only KOS'able if you hide it but it's not if it's still accessible, others say it doesn't matter how you hide it, as long as you do, it's still KOS'able. Newer players or even regular players can't really familiarize themselves with this, and this can be an extremely gray area on weather or not this is KOS'able.

People won't be sure if they will be punished or not. My proposal is, add a rule saying that if you do anything in order to hide it, it's KOS'able.

-Hiding diamond blocks.
This one is also heard a few times, people saying that this is also KOS'able as it takes away a method of winning for the innocent, as does the golden block. While I don't think this is as serious as they say it is, I still think this should be taken into consideration, at least a bit.

My proposal for hiding diamond blocks would be that it would only cause high suspicion on the player who hides them.

-KOSing a location.
This one is, gladly, fairly common knowledge between players. You aren't really allowed to do that. Due to its simplicity, my proposal is just leaving it like it is, and adding a rule that you can't call out locations, as it is EXTREMELY unfair.

-Forcing to test.
Again, fairly common knowledge but not as much between the players as it is with the last one. There is confusion between who can force to test, confusion with how fast can you kill if they don't test, some even say you CAN'T force to test.

My proposal for this one would be that ONLY Detectives are allowed to force tests. They should give 2 warnings and then a countdown before actually KOSing them.


Some people might argue, that these rules can go down under the category of T baiting, mainly the first two. Now, whilst I somewhat agree for this to be true, the "T baiting" rule is, in itself, a big grey area, and in my opinion, should be revisited and improved to be written with higher detail.




If you have any additional suggestions, please comment down below. Other than that, any feedback is appreciated.

Gold Block - If your intention isn't to bring it to the tester = KOS

Diamond Ore's - I believe the same might apply to Gold Block

KOS Locations - It's not allowed

Force to Test - Only Detectives can do that

All of these things are already in the rules.

I read the rules before writing the post, what do you mean

Svanzscape wrote: There are some un-written rules that we all know. And some of them accually are written....

Svanzscape wrote: Svanzscape wrote: Svanzscape wrote: Svanzscape wrote: Svanzscape wrote: All of these things are already rules, specifically stated and described there for users to understand. The only rule that might have to be revised would be the traitor baiting rule to give more examples (though, realistically, it just means you can't commit traitorous acts as an innocent/detective)

Thanks for the extremely detailed response.
For the Diamond block and Golden Block hiding things, I clearly skipped that, thank you. But, it goes to show that they're fairly easy to miss.

For the KOS location, I meant the scenario where "Someone's shooting from the tower! KOS The tower!"

For the Test force, I meant that the rule needs to be way more clear. People think INNOCENTS can test force, there needs to be warnings in place and then a countdown, etc.


But the response was super detailed, thank you.

24/7 ttt_minecraft_b5 one day, we hope

Svanzscape wrote: That could be argued for all the rules I'm afraid. Sorry, I know it's just my own experience talking here, but I don't think that rule clarifications are needed. Just look at SSRP for example: it has a lot of rules that need to be enforced and although there's occasionally a discussion about whether or not a rule has been broken, they are clear enough to be enforced and followed.
Svanzscape wrote: I guess it's not extremely clear, but that would go under the KOS areas rule in rule 2.6. So it's already in the rules.
Svanzscape wrote: Once again I know I'm an experienced staff member and thus have a clear understanding of what's written down there. Because of this I find it a bit difficult to relate to your issues, as some users who are less familiar with them might not find them as clear as I do.

It's simply a fact, though, that it is specified in the rules. That you might not understand them is more your problem than ours - although that's a very rude way of thinking about it.

I'll discuss a possible rule overhaul with some high ranking people like how they did it on SSRP a few months ago. If possible I'd like to do it with you directly - an experienced, yet new opinion on the matter might be exactly the combination that could be needed for the rules to be better described. Please add me on Steam, thank you.
Svanzscape wrote: Just doing my job bud

Will do, and thank you. It's just that TTT is an extremrly popular gamemode, and sadly, players come and go, theres dozens of new ones everyday. Little things like wording matters, because there are countless possibilities on how a certain situation can go down, so I believe it would be best to keep things as black and white as possible. I've only said this because from my experiences, there have been tons of situations that are almost identical, but are dealt with differently.

Will add you on steam. You may close the thread if you want, or you can leave it for others to give feedback or suggestions. Thank you.