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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139853

Name - (What is the accused person's name?) LonelyDodo
Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?)STEAM_0:1:78404438
Evidence Of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID)( sorry dont have it :c )
Server - (What server was this on?) TTT
Time And Date (CET) - (When did it happen?) like 20 mins ago from now 8:40 CEST
Other Comments - (Anything else you want to add?) Unacceptable from a Ex-LT and applying for Moderator
Reason - (What rules did the person break?) Random Death Match
Story - (What happened?) So there were 2 rdmers killing each other and i waited for 1 of them to die to see who should i kill if they Ided the body , so one of them Died and the killer didnt ID and ran away me and Kevin chased him , on the chase Kevin KOSed him and i killed him , dodo asked me why i killed this inno , so i replied that he rdmed . then he killed me while he was innocent .
Proof - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139854

When making a report on a user you should follow this template;

[b]Name[/b] - (What is the accused person's name?)
[b]Steam-ID[/b] - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?)
[b]Evidence Of Steam-ID[/b] - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID)
[b]Server[/b] - (What server was this on?)
[b]Time And Date (CET)[/b] - (When did it happen?)
[b]Other Comments[/b] - (Anything else you want to add?)
[b]Reason[/b] - (What rules did the person break?)
[b]Story[/b] - (What happened?)
[b]Proof[/b] - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)

You can fill in the template by pressing the “edit” button.

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139855

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you	Chespin Offline Legendary Member stay outta tha fiyah Posts: 2229 Thanks received: 1336 Karma: -135
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139857

Chespin wrote: idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with	eddie. Offline Adept Boarder fuck Posts: 6128 Thanks received: 1742 Karma: 48
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139859

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

In this case, killing an innocent is helping the traitors team and hindering the innocents, where people would think from that, that it would be a valid KOS

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139860

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

Ok fair enough, the report is valid, bc applying for mod straight after coming off of a 3 week ban demonstrates a lack of common sense in my eyes

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139862

Chespin wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

Ok fair enough, the report is valid, bc applying for mod straight after coming off of a 3 week ban demonstrates a lack of common sense in my eyes

did you drink your milk today m8? He was fucking kosed , Wdym he used logic to figure out im a T , NOnsense i only wish for SA and above to handle thanks

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139864

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

In this case, killing an innocent is helping the traitors team and hindering the innocents, where people would think from that, that it would be a valid KOS

but at the same time, using common sense in this situation could also mean you realise that the player was KOSed by someone and therefore the player who kills them should not be instantly killed as well, as to not start a nasty chain of innocent killing, as that’s not beneficial for the innocent team, is it?

I’ve always followed the killing innocent = KOS rule but i disagree that the rules say that anywhere or that it’s the intended way of the game

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139866

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

In this case, killing an innocent is helping the traitors team and hindering the innocents, where people would think from that, that it would be a valid KOS

well the guy i killed had 2 of these points 1 . He ignored Ided body , Kevin can confirm but whatever , 2. He was Kosed by Kevin , logs show that

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139867

Eddie. wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

In this case, killing an innocent is helping the traitors team and hindering the innocents, where people would think from that, that it would be a valid KOS

but at the same time, using common sense in this situation could also mean you realise that the player was KOSed by someone and therefore the player who kills them should not be instantly killed as well, as to not start a nasty chain of innocent killing, as that’s not beneficial for the innocent team, is it?

I’ve always followed the killing innocent = KOS rule but i disagree that the rules say that anywhere or that it’s the intended way of the game

I mean, you don’t have to act on a KOS so you could kill both the person who KOSed and the killer as the killer has the choice to believe the KOS which would effectively be the same as KOSing the person themself by believing it and acting on it

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139868

TheFierceOwl wrote:

Chespin wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

Ok fair enough, the report is valid, bc applying for mod straight after coming off of a 3 week ban demonstrates a lack of common sense in my eyes

did you drink your milk today m8? He was fucking kosed , Wdym he used logic to figure out im a T , NOnsense i only wish for SA and above to handle thanks

might wanna put the sa+ only handling in the post itself, also if you go round and start killing an innocent, if you aren't proven, most people would kill you.

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139869

Chespin wrote:

TheFierceOwl wrote:

Chespin wrote:

Kyber wrote:

Eddie. wrote:

Chespin wrote:

idk if you read the rules during your ban, but killing an innocent as an innocent gives Dodo every right to kill you

it doesn’t say that in the rules though, that’s just kinda a thing we follow and a few people really disagree with

Rules wrote:

There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few:

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players.
- Turning themselves in i.e. "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary/discombobulator grenade near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Attempting to obstruct the Golden block from reaching the tester.
- Attempting to obstruct diamond cubes from reaching the furnace.
- Destroying a health station without permission via text chat

I mean, it doesn’t say specifically in the rules but look at what I bolded, the rules are effectively “use common sense to figure out if they’re a baddie”

Ok fair enough, the report is valid, bc applying for mod straight after coming off of a 3 week ban demonstrates a lack of common sense in my eyes

did you drink your milk today m8? He was fucking kosed , Wdym he used logic to figure out im a T , NOnsense i only wish for SA and above to handle thanks

might wanna put the sa+ only handling in the post itself, also if you go round and start killing an innocent, if you aren't proven, most people would kill you.

you sir are insane , he was kosed , he rdmed infront of me , he didnt ID the bodies . So why didnt LonelyDodo RDM , EVEN THO he asked me and i replied a quick one because i expected that , thought that would delay him until i give a full content answer

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139870

Handling! FierceOwl I shalpl give you 24 hours to get the evidence of the steamid otherwise this report shall get denied!	Lotto_Totto Offline Diamond Boarder Posts: 3548 Thanks received: 1147 Karma: -35
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139871

always nice to get attention Killing innocents is traitorous by nature and thus I figured he probably is a T. TheXnator forced us to ask people why they killed an innocent before killing them and I did everything as instructed. If he wasn't acting traitorous he wouldn't have been shot	LonelyDodo Offline Expert Boarder Carpe Noctem Posts: 1188 Thanks received: 528 Karma: 12
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139872

Lotto_Totto wrote: Handling! FierceOwl I shalpl give you 24 hours to get the evidence of the steamid otherwise this report shall get denied! lets cut the crap its me and my steamID is STEAM_0:1:78404438	LonelyDodo Offline Expert Boarder Carpe Noctem Posts: 1188 Thanks received: 528 Karma: 12
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139873

Lotto_Totto wrote: Handling! FierceOwl I shalpl give you 24 hours to get the evidence of the steamid otherwise this report shall get denied! done	TheFierceOwl Offline Banned ❤Finn❤ Posts: 3453 Thanks received: 541 Karma: -178
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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139875

LonelyDodo wrote:

always nice to get attention

Killing innocents is traitorous by nature and thus I figured he probably is a T. TheXnator forced us to ask people why they killed an innocent before killing them and I did everything as instructed. If he wasn't acting traitorous he wouldn't have been shot

Xnator’s point was you need to question them and only if they don’t respond/have a valid reason you can kill them, meaning this kill was probably invalid.

However, i disagree with that way of working and i doubt that’s going to be considered regarding this report.

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139876

Eddie. wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

always nice to get attention

Killing innocents is traitorous by nature and thus I figured he probably is a T. TheXnator forced us to ask people why they killed an innocent before killing them and I did everything as instructed. If he wasn't acting traitorous he wouldn't have been shot

Xnator’s point was you need to question them and only if they don’t respond/have a valid reason you can kill them, meaning this kill was probably invalid.

However, i disagree with that way of working and i doubt that’s going to be considered regarding this report.

thx men

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139885

1) Dode had a valid reason to kill you. You killed an inno rdmer or not how is dode meant to know that for SURE. All he knows is that you killed an inno and that this is a valid reason to kill you.

2) Dode simply followed the rule of 2.5 Player Versus Player
If two individuals are fighting and you have no proof which could be the traitor, you must wait before joining in the fight until one player dies and they either; identify the body/the round ends/you question them.

He waited for you to fight. He questioned you and made up his mind that you killed an inno and acted on that.

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[TTT] Punishment Request - LonelyDodo 4 years 10 months ago #1139888

No longer handling it now	Turtle965 Offline Legendary Member #SaveTheTurtles Posts: 399 Thanks received: 221 Karma: -11
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