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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297346

Staff Member(s) Name: AmerRox

Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:1:90401612

What did the Staff Member(s) do?: I was building in my base when I was teleported with accusation of prop push. When the guy showed proof, they were very bad as he had his prop menu open in every one and my name showed up in none of them. Then I got warned for "prop push" and for "lying to staff". After I was returned, I PM'd amer and asked him why I was warned when none of the pictures showed my name. He then told me that he had seen me prop push. Now this confused me for the following reasons:

1) I didn't prop push. Of course he could have been trying to get me to admit.

2) If he did see me prop push, then why didn't he warn me on the spot instead of waiting for the guy to upload all of his proof?

So I sent him a PM asking him a few simple questions. I asked him why he did nothing, I asked him what prop was used and I asked him what colour was my physgun. Now if he did see me prop push, these would have been simple questions yet he did not reply to a single question. I then told him that I would take this to the forums and he replied simply with "ok" which shows me that he did in fact see my previous questions.

What server(s) was this on?: DarkRP

Evidence: I'll upload the original accusers screenshots as well as the PM's sent between me and Amer.

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654949343
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654949278
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654950684
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654950593
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654950958

Now having looked over these screenshots, I noticed the following things:

1) My name is not mentioned in any of them. Yes you can see a chat message in one of them but I am talking about the name that shows up on the edge of your screen when you look at a prop. That would be the prop owner. And if you are wondering about the chat, I got in the dudes car and he said "random entry". Now I admit I didn't know what that was so I replied with "You wot m8? I'll show you random entry". That's about it.

2) If you look in the background, you will see that whoever is throwing the prop has a white physgun. Mine is in fact red. Amer didn't seem to notice this during the amdin sit however.

Here is the conversation between me and Amer:

images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...B391C695981721B0649/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...A0857C2268C5966DA0C/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...23C56EDDA00F1EA0FAE/ <-- That screenshot in the PM was posted above
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...7E64DE52C91441E0BC0/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...988D340D736A21D0746/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...802641221E7878FAFD5/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...5F2BC67281EACA49787/
images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2...0938DA83AB6DE30BE0A/

Thank you for reading. Let me know if I forgot anything.

TL;DR Got warned for something with no evidence of me being involved.
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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297347

What a suprise
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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297348

I don't remember the physgun of everyone I see proppush. And sometimes I let them slip for a second, let's say I'm busy with holstering my weapon or anything other RP related I'm waiting that time and then do the sit.
1) shows nothing
2) How_to_change_physgun.jpeg

Staff doesn't need proof if they saw it happen.
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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297350

I don't really see a valid proof here...
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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297353

But he didn't see it happen. It never happened. He couldn't tell me where it happened, with what prop or even what colour my physgun was. If there was as little proof as you both say, then he cannot just assume I did it. Even if he decided to spectate me it would be better but to assume I am lying and give me two warns is quite stupid.

EDIT: You both say there is no evidence. That's exactly the point I am trying to make. Those first screenshots aren't mine. I am pointing out how little evidence that show.
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AmerRox warn with insufficient proof 8 years 9 months ago #297382

Thank you for taking the time to make a report, I have spoken to AmerRox and he claims that he saw that you did indeed use the props to push. Give that there is no proof of the situation showing that you didn't do it I am going to deny this.

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