TOPIC: [SSRP] More Training Required - ThatsKarma

Staff Member(s) Name: ThatsKarma

Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:1:104780137

What did the Staff Member(s) do?: False ban without checking who they were banning. Not listening to Kpro who was telling him he is banning the wrong player and also ignored OOC. This was solved by Walk3r but if I hadn't know about the TS or had not been recording then this ban would've most likely stuck. I don't think admins should be banning for this long without being 100% sure they are banning the right player and they should also probably speak to the person before banning them too. As you can see in the evidence I didn't even get a message my way about why I am being banned. I was just banned. He did however come on TS and resolve the issue but only after we kept asking him to join. Just poor practice and another reason why people should follow RedPowder's thread Here and especially the rule "- When banning/kicking someone, check and check again that you have the right person/steamID!".

Please make RedPowder's thread a legitimate set of rules that staff have to follow otherwise this sort of thing will continue to happen. I mean the thread is pretty godly.

What server(s) was this on?: |1| ZARP|CUSTOM DARKRP|M9K|GANGS|CRAFTING

Evidence:

images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/3...F94F98D8017910FBAEE/

I even told ThatsKarma he was banning LazyBro and it was a mistake... He didn't even double check after that? This is proof the staff haven't been trained properly. We really need RedPowder's staff rules to be followed.

There is a reason why you need double check

ThatsKarma wrote: You need to be careful, use his steam id and not name, you still need to check that if you banned the right person.

Nutzu3650XL wrote:
There was Mass Server lag and tab was messed up, that was the mistake I made.

ThatsKarma wrote: That's the worst attitude you could ever have as a staff in my opinion.

''Oh Ill just ban you for fun and then unban you, doesn't matter right? I unbanned you so no probs. Totally not abuse or dumb staffing on my side.''

ThatsKarma wrote:
That's why it isn't a demote request. It's mainly to gain more attention towards Redpowder's post which is under-appreciated. It is perfect for teaching staff and should be followed. I don't understand why it is optional whether or not staff follow it because it just leads to bad situations for players who are victims of this sort of thing.
No excuse for this ban since we did spam you telling you it was the wrong person and was ignored. I understand it was lagging but you should still always make sure you have the right person ;3

LineLiar wrote: Like i banned you, i ruined ur RP and oh there is no problem i unbanned you

ThatsKarma wrote:
If the player left why were you using tab menu to ban him...
Also how do you not notice that the person in front of you left...
Also how do you click on a Master Thief when the guy you were banning was a citizen...

Mistakes are made; he doesn't need to be retrained for one lapse of concentration. People have done much worse by accident and haven't been disciplined to the extent you're suggesting.

Exrobite wrote:
What extent? I am suggesting he be retrained as an admin and also that Redpowder's thread be seriously read and followed as it sets a good standard for staff. This is to improve the server and make it so that things like this won't happen in the future. If I had not made this post or went on TS then I would still be falsely banned. He didn't even listen to the people telling him not to ban me. Don't misunderstand this thread Exrobite. If I wanted him demoted or punished then I would have made a thread for that purpose. I think retraining him is letting him off with it and better than a report against him.

LazyBro wrote:
I respect you for not trying to get him demoted; but all he needs is (and I hate myself for doing this,) a good talking to, to ensure that he's learned what he did wrong. Our conceptions of retraining may be different but when I hear it I think of him being taught from square one, which, again in my opinion, is not what he needs. Sure, he needs to learn from this and not do it in the future, but people have slayed most of the server before and not been retrained, just received a talking to.

Oh and, @Karma:

ThatsKarma wrote:
This is not about you specifically, it's about staff in general.

ThatsKarma wrote:
I shot you.

You sued me.

But you survived.

So there is no real need to complain.