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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66970

Name - (What is the accused person's name?) Johnny Smith
Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?) STEAM_0:1:53414357
Evidence of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID) It is available here.
Server - (What server was this on?) SSRP 2
Rank - (What is the accused person's rank?) Administrator
Reason - (What rules did the person break?) RDM/FailRP
Story - (What happened?) Someone basically made advert about steel. I pmed him that I will buy it and then I found him nearby mines. I offered 410k where Johnny offered 400k. We accepted trade through F2 and after this Johhny pulled out his shotgun and killed me.
Proof - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)
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Time and date (CET) - (When did it happend?) 16/09/2014 ~ 11 A.M.
Other comments - (Anything else you want to add?) This sort of situations are unacceptable in my oppinion and I demand punishment.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66979

I would like to add a report.
first of all I'm sorry for my bad english :P

Name - (What is the accused person's name?) Johnny Smith
Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?) STEAM_0:1:53414357
Evidence of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID) It is available here.
Server - (What server was this on?) SSRP 2
Rank - (What is the accused person's rank?) Administrator
Reason - (What rules did the person break?) Admin abuse
Story - (What happened?) It started that Johnny Smith started raiding me, after some time he started raiding me everyday and everytime when I'm basing. He started to make a joke about it and when I came online he said anything like :" Nex build your base quick, I'm waiting with my new Milkor" . That's okay at that point, if he want he can raid me everytime, sometimes it might be even fun to get raided. But here's the point: everytime when I finished making a base or just spawning one , it always takes arround 10-15 minutes for him to find my base. Well, that could be when I'm at public places, but I based in a Garden, in the Underground, in public places and I had even a base UNDER WATER with almost invisible props if you look from above on it! When he found me underwater he said he saw me building when he where at the bank. I believed him at first but he keeps finding me just " everywhere" and I don't think that's possible without abusing Admin rights . I have no proofs yet, and I also have no Idea how I should be able to proof it. cauz I can't take screenshots of him standing in front of my base, that's no proof. I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say! ( sorry for my long story)
Proof - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)
No proofs yet
Other comments - (Anything else you want to add?) Nothing.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66985

GregoryTWIX wrote:
<strong>Name - (What is the accused person's name?)</strong> Johnny Smith
<strong>Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?)</strong> STEAM_0:1:53414357
<strong>Evidence of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID) </strong>It is available here.
<strong>Server - (What server was this on?)</strong> SSRP 2
<strong>Rank - (What is the accused person's rank?)</strong> Administrator
<strong>Reason - (What rules did the person break?)</strong> RDM/FailRP
<strong>Story - (What happened?)</strong> Someone basically made advert about steel. I pmed him that I will buy it and then I found him nearby mines. I offered 410k where Johnny offered 400k. We accepted trade through F2 and after this Johhny pulled out his shotgun and killed me.
<strong>Proof - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)</strong>
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<strong>Time and date (CET) - (When did it happend?)</strong> 16/09/2014 ~ 11 A.M.
<strong>Other comments - (Anything else you want to add?)</strong> This sort of situations are unacceptable in my opinion and I demand punishment.

Hello,
I still haven't received an official answer from Tea Leaf or Dcx about this, but you forgot to add how I was making a deal with a customer that was selling steel when you decided to jump in the conversation and just say "500K" I said "600K" you then said "601" check the link below for the full chat and not just what he wants you guys to see.
Proof of chat here, sorry for dups. So basically, I killed you for interfering in my trading business and stealing my customer, which I did to Dcx and he killed me for it, WITHOUT a warn and he did it a few times to me too, so I'm pretty sure its allowed, but I still need to ask him to make sure. I'll reply again later, once Dcx answers on steam.

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I would like to add a report.
first of all I'm sorry for my bad english :P

Name - (What is the accused person's name?) Johnny Smith
Steam-ID - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?) STEAM_0:1:53414357
Evidence of Steam-ID - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID) It is available here.
Server - (What server was this on?) SSRP 2
Rank - (What is the accused person's rank?) Administrator
Reason - (What rules did the person break?) Admin abuse
Story - (What happened?) It started that Johnny Smith started raiding me, after some time he started raiding me everyday and everytime when I'm basing. He started to make a joke about it and when I came online he said anything like :" Nex build your base quick, I'm waiting with my new Milkor" . That's okay at that point, if he want he can raid me everytime, sometimes it might be even fun to get raided. But here's the point: everytime when I finished making a base or just spawning one , it always takes arround 10-15 minutes for him to find my base. Well, that could be when I'm at public places, but I based in a Garden, in the Underground, in public places and I had even a base UNDER WATER with almost invisible props if you look from above on it! When he found me underwater he said he saw me building when he where at the bank. I believed him at first but he keeps finding me just " everywhere" and I don't think that's possible without abusing Admin rights . I have no proofs yet, and I also have no Idea how I should be able to proof it. cauz I can't take screenshots of him standing in front of my base, that's no proof. I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say! ( sorry for my long story)
Proof - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)
No proofs yet
Other comments - (Anything else you want to add?) Nothing.
Please don't accuse me of something I didn't do without "proof", I wouldn't abuse my powers for a bit of money nor for a lot, I'm not gonna risk a demotion to find the location of your clearly easy to find base locations. I mean basing in the river? That's the first place I look for hidden printers, a huge warehouse? I mean you've based there over 6-7 times and I find you everytime. Behind a house that's not more than 10-15 meters away from the Main District? The only reason I raid you all the time is because you are on when only me and you or a few others are, and I joke about building a base fast to almost all the people I commonly raid, sorry if your upset about it... Now how do I find your base? Easy, I go around the map and look for bases in all the secret places I can think of, but if you still think I'm "abusing", then get yourself some proof.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66986

I would also like to add he broke NLR, told me he didn't have NLR when he clearly did. The attempted to convince me that NLR does not apply on server 2.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66987

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I would also like to add he broke NLR, told me he didn't have NLR when he clearly did. The attempted to convince me that NLR does not apply on server 2.
Didn't try to convince you of anything really, just said that Chris hasn't written the rules for server 2, so NLR districts aren't explained yet. Not sure why you didn't make your own thread, or why so many people just want me demoted, maybe jealousy of my recent activity, or because I'm an enemy of the brotherhood or because they just think I'm a "rulebreaker" that doesn't deserve my rank.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66989

JohnnySmith wrote:
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I would also like to add he broke NLR, told me he didn't have NLR when he clearly did. The attempted to convince me that NLR does not apply on server 2.
Didn't try to convince you of anything really, just said that Chris hasn't written the rules for server 2, so NLR districts aren't explained yet. Not sure why you didn't make your own thread, or why so many people just want me demoted, maybe jealousy of my recent activity, or because I'm an enemy of the brotherhood or because they just think I'm a "rulebreaker" that doesn't deserve my rank.

I will not argue this, I will not create a thread I just want to add to Gregory's report. Your point bring that Chris hasn't written the rules is an invalid one as that would mean that server 2 is without rules. The rules are as stated in the motd until they are changed or overruled by a super admin. I do hope this is seriously considered as I do believe he should be punished for his abuse, I seem to not be the only one.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66992

Hello,
I still haven't received an official answer from Tea Leaf or Dcx about this, but you forgot to add how I was making a deal with a customer that was selling steel when you decided to jump in the conversation and just say "500K" I said "600K" you then said "601" check the link below for the full chat and not just what he wants you guys to see.
Proof of chat here, sorry for dups. So basically, I killed you for interfering in my trading business and stealing my customer, which I did to Dcx and he killed me for it, WITHOUT a warn and he did it a few times to me too, so I'm pretty sure its allowed, but I still need to ask him to make sure. I'll reply again later, once Dcx answers on steam.

Still doesnt matter, I was fightning for customer so I offered more. Even before I pmed him. When you were saying how rich are you and how are you going to buy it I made trade.

THE FIRST THE BETTER.

After this you killed me for something that is inappropriate roleplay reason.

Comparing to real life - If someone is going to take last cheese you are going to kill him?
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66993

May I just add that, for as far as I know, you're allowed to scam people, as long as you don't use exploits to do so?
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66994

GregoryTWIX wrote:
Comparing to real life - If someone is going to take last cheese you are going to kill him?
Depends on the type of cheese. I'd kill for Cheddar.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66995

「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
May I just add that, for as far as I know, you're allowed to scam people, as long as you don't use exploits to do so?
What has scamming got to do with this???
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #66999

GregoryTWIX wrote:
Hello,
I still haven't received an official answer from Tea Leaf or Dcx about this, but you forgot to add how I was making a deal with a customer that was selling steel when you decided to jump in the conversation and just say "500K" I said "600K" you then said "601" check the link below for the full chat and not just what he wants you guys to see.
Proof of chat here, sorry for dups. So basically, I killed you for interfering in my trading business and stealing my customer, which I did to Dcx and he killed me for it, WITHOUT a warn and he did it a few times to me too, so I'm pretty sure its allowed, but I still need to ask him to make sure. I'll reply again later, once Dcx answers on steam.

Still doesnt matter, I was fightning for customer so I offered more. Even before I pmed him. When you were saying how rich are you and how are you going to buy it I made trade.

<strong>THE FIRST THE BETTER.</strong>

After this you killed me for something that is inappropriate roleplay reason.

Comparing to real life - If someone is going to take last cheese you are going to kill him?

Are you comparing cheese to 36 Steel? You should compare it to 400 Grand and I've heard about people killing each other for a lot less.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67006

soxey6 wrote:
JohnnySmith wrote:
「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
May I just add that, for as far as I know, you're allowed to scam people, as long as you don't use exploits to do so?
What has scamming got to do with this???
Ignore him, all that Anime went to his brain

Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67008

「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
No no no, you have it all wrong, he stole a customer from me and took the steel I wanted to craft a milkor with, so I shot him in the face, since he stole my business, don't see why he's making a big deal out of it, we'll just have to wait for a lead team member to see this.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67011

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「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
No no no, you have it all wrong, he stole a customer from me and took the steel I wanted to craft a milkor with, so I shot him in the face, since he stole my business, don't see why he's making a big deal out of it, we'll just have to wait for a lead team member to see this.

I didnt steal anyone. If you will read my last post:

THE FIRST - THE BETTER

I offered him more when you used to speak how rich you are. Deal with it you just broke rules.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67012

GregoryTWIX wrote:
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Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
No no no, you have it all wrong, he stole a customer from me and took the steel I wanted to craft a milkor with, so I shot him in the face, since he stole my business, don't see why he's making a big deal out of it, we'll just have to wait for a lead team member to see this.

I didnt steal anyone. If you will read my last post:

THE FIRST - THE BETTER

I offered him more when you used to speak how rich you are. Deal with it you just broke rules.
I actually offered 600k but you turned it into a troll by just asking for a higher price + I don't want to argue anymore here, I'll just wait for an answer from a lead team member, preferably Dcx.
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67013

JohnnySmith wrote:
「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
No no no, you have it all wrong, he stole a customer from me and took the steel I wanted to craft a milkor with, so I shot him in the face, since he stole my business, don't see why he's making a big deal out of it, we'll just have to wait for a lead team member to see this.

I haven't read the whole thread has I'm at work and don't have that much time but by you saying he took a customer and then you shot him in the face sounds like RDM. I will discuss this with the rest of the team when I get home but ya this whole thing sounds interesting to say at the least. I'm really not sure that someone taking a customer or offering a customer more money for steel justifies a reason to kill someone.

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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67014

RedPowder wrote:
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「LIGHƬΔΓΓΘШЅ.exe」 wrote:
Well, I'm sorry for misreading what was said. I thought it was simply about scamming here, that Johnny shot him in the face after getting money.
No no no, you have it all wrong, he stole a customer from me and took the steel I wanted to craft a milkor with, so I shot him in the face, since he stole my business, don't see why he's making a big deal out of it, we'll just have to wait for a lead team member to see this.

I haven't read the whole thread has I'm at work and don't have that much time but by you saying he took a customer and then you shot him in the face sounds like RDM. I will discuss this with the rest of the team when I get home but ya this whole thing sounds interesting to say at the least. I'm really not sure that someone taking a customer or offering a customer more money for steel justifies a reason to kill someone.

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exactly Red, in my opinion this was totally inappropriate kill without proper reason.
preferably Dcx.

Corruption or Dcx is taking your side?
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67016

GregoryTWIX wrote:
Corruption or Dcx is taking your side?
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I did to Dcx and he killed me for it, WITHOUT a warn and he did it a few times to me too, so I'm pretty sure its allowed

I doubt that dcx would do such a thing Gregory take sides etc...
Some people apparently didn't get my point, I edited this so you don't misunderstand what I was trying to say :)
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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67019

Unless Dcx commented on this or personal told you about it I recommend everyone not saying his name. He will give his input when he's ready and has spoken to the rest of the team.

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[SSRP] Abuse Report - Johnny Smith 10 years 3 months ago #67020

Well, It's true when I'm basing in the same warehouse everyday that you know where I am, that's definitely true.
But when I look for a Hidden printer I usually don't swim through the river... and I just came online, went behind that house in the garden and before my first plants were done you already found me. suspicious.

I don't know if you "would" ever abuse your rights, maybe I am wrong, but I have a strange feeling there.
and I can't proof it of course, tell me how am I supposed to proof that you abuse your Admin rights, there is no way for me. I can just report it that I believe you do.

and I talked to Gregory today ingame and he told me to post my report under his, I didnt know I should make a whole new Topic or smth.
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