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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227320

From what i know "Not knowing rules, doesn't free you from obeying them". Well.

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Admins Name - Rittsu
Reason - Handling report improperly
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Story - I got RDmed by HepatitasC. I reported him for RDM. When we were in chat he claimed that he killed me because "he had DNA and victim was innocent. chat ended with Rittsu "explaining rules" and letting HepatitasC free. As i mentioned "Not knowing rules, doesn't free you from obeying them".
Proof - (in attach.)
Extra Information - Even if he had to explain rules that doesn't make him not guilty. This time i'll forgive HepatitasC, but not Rittsu
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227325

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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227327

Are you reporting Rittsu or appealing a warning? You have made a combination of the templates?
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227330

Its more of a report abuse then appeal
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227340

Just gonna put this here:

A staff's word is final. If Rittsu decided to not give a warning that is HIS choice not yours.
This is now the second time today you decided that a staffs warning or no warning was not valid in your opinion.

The staff in question has their own valid reason to do what they do.
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227342

Let's spin this around.
Would you like to be punished for a rule you din't know and that's unclear ?
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227343

First of all, Long Island you have played on the server for a while. Why would you even report this player in the first place when he explained that he had DNA on you? Secondly I don't even understand this post, what is the purpose of this?
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227344

If you are appealing a warn or want rittsu punished for not agreeing with you etc you really haven’t put anything that shows anything that’s invalid or unjust, you’ve just shown him getting dna off an innocents body and then killing you for it which is a perfectly valid reason to do so he does not have to ask you why you killed the guy, that’s only recommended as so you don’t lose karma
I honestly have no idea what this post is for tho so I’m a little confused
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227345

Ezz wrote:
Let's spin this around.
Would you like to be punished for a rule you din't know and that's unclear ?
How about read the rules
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227347

There was no warning given
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227349

poogle wrote:
There was no warning given
Well I have no idea what the point of the post is then lol
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227359

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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227393

He had dna because guy ARDMed me. it's shown in attach.
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227394

Let's spin again. Would you like Admins to abuse their powers?
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227395

Like has been previously said you have used the wrong template so if you would like to report rittsu for abuse then please use the correct template!
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227397

Long Island wrote:
Let's spin again. Would you like Admins to abuse their powers?

Stop spinning. Why did Pipper shoot you?
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227399

Maddox wrote:
If you are appealing a warn or want rittsu punished for not agreeing with you etc you really haven’t put anything that shows anything that’s invalid or unjust, you’ve just shown him getting dna off an innocents body and then killing you for it which is a perfectly valid reason to do so he does not have to ask you why you killed the guy, that’s only recommended as so you don’t lose karma
I honestly have no idea what this post is for tho so I’m a little confused

From what I heard while I was briefly on TeamSpeak earlier the body was identified, meaning he cannot kill him for retrieving DNA.

If you have no idea what occurred killing an innocent player by itself is not a justifiable reason to kill someone, you will need more information than that to act, e.g. did they ID them, did they fail to respond when you asked, did they have a reason to kill them (2.6 - 2.7), etc.

Regarding Rittsu not handing out a slay+warn, it's recommended that all staff give out a verbal warning for newer players on first offense, so there's nothing wrong with his decision not to punish the user if that was the case, which I've been told it was.
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227405

Nina wrote:
Maddox wrote:
If you are appealing a warn or want rittsu punished for not agreeing with you etc you really haven’t put anything that shows anything that’s invalid or unjust, you’ve just shown him getting dna off an innocents body and then killing you for it which is a perfectly valid reason to do so he does not have to ask you why you killed the guy, that’s only recommended as so you don’t lose karma
I honestly have no idea what this post is for tho so I’m a little confused

From what I heard while I was briefly on TeamSpeak earlier the body was identified, meaning he cannot kill him for retrieving DNA.

If you have no idea what occurred killing an innocent player by itself is not a justifiable reason to kill someone, you will need more information than that to act, e.g. did they ID them, did they fail to respond when you asked, did they have a reason to kill them (2.6 - 2.7), etc.

Regarding Rittsu not handing out a slay+warn, it's recommended that all staff give out a verbal warning for newer players on first offense, so there's nothing wrong with his decision not to punish the user if that was the case, which I've been told it was.
I had no idea that was a rule, personally (and like 90% of people) just kill anyone that they have retrieved dna of from an innos body just like if you see two players in a gunfight and you know one is Inno you can kill the other guy and you don’t have to wait till the gunfights over and ask questions like if he was RDMing etc which is not different to this scenario because the person who got dna knew the guy he got it from was Inno cuz it says. And like it says in the rules it’s only recommended to ask why someone killed an innocent but that’s just my interpretation of it
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227573

Maddox wrote:
Nina wrote:
Maddox wrote:
If you are appealing a warn or want rittsu punished for not agreeing with you etc you really haven’t put anything that shows anything that’s invalid or unjust, you’ve just shown him getting dna off an innocents body and then killing you for it which is a perfectly valid reason to do so he does not have to ask you why you killed the guy, that’s only recommended as so you don’t lose karma
I honestly have no idea what this post is for tho so I’m a little confused

From what I heard while I was briefly on TeamSpeak earlier the body was identified, meaning he cannot kill him for retrieving DNA.

If you have no idea what occurred killing an innocent player by itself is not a justifiable reason to kill someone, you will need more information than that to act, e.g. did they ID them, did they fail to respond when you asked, did they have a reason to kill them (2.6 - 2.7), etc.

Regarding Rittsu not handing out a slay+warn, it's recommended that all staff give out a verbal warning for newer players on first offense, so there's nothing wrong with his decision not to punish the user if that was the case, which I've been told it was.
I had no idea that was a rule, personally (and like 90% of people) just kill anyone that they have retrieved dna of from an innos body just like if you see two players in a gunfight and you know one is Inno you can kill the other guy and you don’t have to wait till the gunfights over and ask questions like if he was RDMing etc which is not different to this scenario because the person who got dna knew the guy he got it from was Inno cuz it says. And like it says in the rules it’s only recommended to ask why someone killed an innocent but that’s just my interpretation of it

You cannot kill someone for killing an innocent player alone, sure it's "recommended to ask them", but this simply means that if you decide not to ask them you must either have a diffent reason to kill them or you'll have to let them go for it until you can gather enough evidence.
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[TTT] Warn Appeal for Rittsu 4 years 7 months ago #1227579

You cannot kill someone for killing an innocent player alone, sure it's "recommended to ask them", but this simply means that if you decide not to ask them you must either have a diffent reason to kill them or you'll have to let them go for it until you can gather enough evidence.[/quote]
Cuz of the new rules now u cannot get DNA from a already IDED body if u see and UNIDED body and u ID it and it has DNA u can retrieve that DNA from that body but if someone dies gets IDED Detective doesn't get DNA atfirst and goes away then comes back and gets that DNA and kills u its not acceptable and is counted towards RDM which this report is about he got DNA from a IDED body and he should be punished for it CASE CLOSED
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