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TOPIC: Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto

Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196279

Hi,

Once again, I'm here to report a staff member for dodging his report against a casual longterm player and member of Zarp like myself. Some of you perhaps remember me and are friends with me. I usually behave a little too rude but I always try to keep by the rules of the server. I would not bother to make this report again because you always ask for evidence that I show and you don't count it as evidence, but since David encouraged me to create this report on the forums, I decided to go ahead and do it for my own sake only. I could care the less if I was abused by a staff member because they are a bunch of kids in majority.

ANYWAY! I was playing as innocent (I don't remember which round it was, perhaps the admins that you chose [Broken and Lotto] would know since they are supposed to be qualified for the position) and there were a couple Traitors left to finish the round. Now I knew that opertedog player was dead as a Traitor. Until I saw Lotto reviving him inside the tower, right behind the door and he went to run away from opertedog who unfortunately was AFK and because Lotto saw me that I saw him what he did, he pretended to shoot at opertedog but I killed both of them. opertedog showed as red as well on my screen and yes, I do tab a lot during my games, Broken.

So Lotto reported me and Broken handled my report. Broken instantly took the side of Lotto cause they are staff buddies without accepting the fact that I replied 3 freaking times to their questions of WHY (I do not accept fault) I killed Lotto. They just didn't want to hear my truth and because of that, Broken decided to RDM punish me.

Games like that really trigger me sometimes and it's not fair to deal with toxic players. I am playing on the server for over 2 years, perhaps more and I always get such lame situations like this one I had today. Like I said, I wouldn't bother to complain (again) but I thought why the heck not? I could care less if you believed me or not or even if you punished Lotto for admin abuse. I just love Garry's mod as a game. Perhaps you'd say "why not leave the server then?" Well, why would you want someone to leave your server? I guess I just like how it looks like sometimes and it's easy to win rounds on your server.

P.S. Oh! And Lotto's excuse was "there's no way of you knowing I revived opertedog" and he kept saying that in the report between us and Broken. He was in no decision to forgive me or not WHEN I WAS THE ONE PROVEN for killing both of them! Don't ask me for date information and details. I mentioned all I could remember above.

Good luck!
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196281

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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196282

Hey man, as you are a longterm player and member of Zarp, then you should remember to use the Warning Appeal Template for this one! Here!
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196284

I am not a kid, why u bully me :<.

Jokes aside, the reason why we need proof on such topics is that a lot of user just go on the forums and then claim some random shit. At this point is just your word against the word of the staff member and in that case we rather believe the staff member. However I dont understand why lotto kept the report in the first place, if he actually revived him and just tried to cover it up by killing him. I usually (when I get killed in those situations) just put 1 and 1 together and be like "well was worth a shot" and then just dismiss it, but (as I have seen) not a lot of people do this and stick on to the reports just because they are salty that they died (yes I have seen it many times and I have seen it in the user base and the staff team).

I dont think that someone will do something about it and to the people replying to this post with the template.Can you like actually read the report before sending something like that? He did something like this, because he knows making a report abuse will just result in it being denied. He doesnt have evidence so making a report abuse is basically pointless.

I hope that this doesnt affect your experience too much on the server and I hope you dont have to encounter smth like that again.
Have a nice day
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196286

Poseidon,

I do and don't you give me that lame attitude. You can check my profile if you're familiar with the forums page "man". But I don't visit the forums often and like I said, I gave all the information in my post already. But if you want it that way then here you go:

Name : Helen
STEAM-ID: HelenGD
Admins Name: Broken and Lotto
Reason: RDM when I was proven for killing Lotto and opertedog cause Lotto revived opertedog.
Server: Zarp TTT
Time: RDM slay next round.
Story: Read my post.
Proof: No. What you are asking is not possible to show. I showed screenshots in the past that you did not count as proof. Yet you take admins' words as an evidence. I just wanted to explain what happened to maybe wish for a better choice next time you choose someone as an admin instead of having sly and angry mods like Lotto.
Extra Information: Yes, this whole report was opened for 3 whole rounds waiting for me to reply over and over again the same truth of my side. I SAW him reviving his T buddy.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196287

Thanks for your reply, TheRealNepgear. Like I said, I took the encouragement from David to make this report on the forums. I will still play TTT on ZARP server. But what Lotto (and Broken) did... yeah, it was not really fair to keep me for 3 rounds after to accept fault when I was basically proven. That's just admin abuse.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196289

Just to say nina well be handling it not me.
Best of luck on this appel by the way
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196290

Helen wrote:
Poseidon,

I do and don't you give me that lame attitude. You can check my profile if you're familiar with the forums page "man". But I don't visit the forums often and like I said, I gave all the information in my post already.
I didn't mean to give you any attitude. I just wanted to remind you! Anyways you should edit the your first post instead of posting it below
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196294

Imo the way this report should have been handled is if the mod in question handling the report would have checked the timestamps of when the traitor got revived and by who and if that was close enough to the time that Helen killed them both. But cause this report abuse/warn appeal has no damage logs at all it's taking one person word against the other. Good luck with this whoever is handling it.
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I suppose I'm handling since I've reached out to the people involved, Helen has confirmed that this was indeed intended as a report abuse.

Expect a verdict once I've gotten in contact with the accused staff members. :)
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196309

Hello there, I never meant to get you punished due the fact I wanted to know how you possibly could have seen me revive him when the door was closed, never walked in when i was reviving and last was crouching sideways so not fully in the door. I was wondering how you were able to see me
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196313

Lotto_Totto wrote:
Hello there, I never meant to get you punished due the fact I wanted to know how you possibly could have seen me revive him when the door was closed, never walked in when i was reviving and last was crouching sideways so not fully in the door. I was wondering how you were able to see me
Then surely don't keep the report, or atleast tell broken "oh alright, no need to punish him". Even if you are certain that he didn't see you, i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He claims you revived a T, hence he killed you, and you did revive a t.

I don't see any action as necessary but I do support this.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196318

Lotto_Totto wrote:
Hello there, I never meant to get you punished due the fact I wanted to know how you possibly could have seen me revive him when the door was closed, never walked in when i was reviving and last was crouching sideways so not fully in the door. I was wondering how you were able to see me
Well Lotto why didn't you ask Broken to open the chat to talk about it with Helen, that would made much more sense then punishing him immediately.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196320

God dammit Ross wrote:
Lotto Wrote Hello there, I never meant to get you punished due the fact I wanted to know how you possibly could have seen me revive him when the door was closed, never walked in when i was reviving and last was crouching sideways so not fully in the door. I was wondering how you were able to see me
Well Lotto why didn't you ask Broken to open the chat to talk about it with Helen, that would made much more sense then punishing him immediately.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196425

:minussp: because thats my opinion
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196426

Providing evidence would've been very appropriate for this matter.
However, it depends on the two staff members (BrokeN and Lotto) whether this abuse report is accepted or not and whether your warning is considered valid or not.
Best of luck with the report, keep supporting ZARP!



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:minussp: because thats my opinion
Any specific reason why? I'm quite curious.
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Unfair RDM punishment from admins Broken and Lotto 4 years 10 months ago #1196434

Ok, Helen I’m sorry first of all. I can confirm what Helen said is basically true, and I had no problems not punishing you, but you were just saying that you saw lotto do it as you mentioned you said it three times, but after I asked you in the report chat where you saw lotto res him and you didn’t answer for two rounds of ttt, that’s when I typed in regular game chat “hellen pls answer” and waited another round, you guessed it there was no answer, so I went ahead and punished you. I don’t want to blame lotto but he did not say don’t punish. So hellen I’m sincerely sorry for the miss understanding. I will try to be more aware next time.
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Davidov007 wrote:
Providing evidence would've been very appropriate for this matter.
However, it depends on the two staff members (BrokeN and Lotto) whether this abuse report is accepted or not and whether your warning is considered valid or not.
Best of luck with the report, keep supporting ZARP!



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:minussp: because thats my opinion
Any specific reason why? I'm quite curious.
"because thats my opinion"
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BrokeNXD wrote:
Ok, Helen I’m sorry first of all. I can confirm what Helen said is basically true, and I had no problems not punishing you, but you were just saying that you saw lotto do it as you mentioned you said it three times, but after I asked you in the report chat where you saw lotto res him and you didn’t answer for two rounds of ttt, that’s when I typed in regular game chat “hellen pls answer” and waited another round, you guessed it there was no answer, so I went ahead and punished you. I don’t want to blame lotto but he did not say don’t punish. So hellen I’m sincerely sorry for the miss understanding. I will try to be more aware next time.
oh and I want to point out That i Wasnt taking lottos side because were so called “ staff buddies” But because i didnt think you were a returning player who Knows the rules. I trusted Lotto more because he is an admin and regural players tend to Bor know all the rules and not be truthful in their reports. But now i learnt my lession and wont take anyone for granted.
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