TOPIC: [TTT] Punishment Request - Aplex and Hipfire God

Name - Aplex and Hipfire God
Steam-ID - STEAM_0:0:52504398 and STEAM_0:1:186055572
Evidence Of Steam-ID - In the video
Server - TTT
Time And Date (CET) - 13:40 BST
Other Comments - N/A
Reason - Cheating
Story - Both came on server and began aimbotting
Proof -

The server has gotten too much hackers recently and non are being taken care of

this will be brought up in the next meeting

TheFierceOwl wrote:
You have to understand a few things:

Firstly, Lead Team members aren't always on the server since they too are humans and have lifes outside of ZARP, and by the current policies Moderators nor Administrators have the permission to punish anyone for hacking even if it's plain obvious. The most they, along with Users, can do is record the gameplay of the player in question as well as acquiring their Steam ID, and after providing that to the TTT LT, they will handle it in the next LTM which takes place in Sunday evening where all the Super Administrator and higher will collectively vote on the item.

Secondly, even if a LT member is on the server, and the User hasn't got visuals or the AC (Anti-Cheat) fails, they too will have to go through the same process of acquiring video evidence as well as the Steam ID of the "hacker", and that too must and will be handled in the LTM just like previously mentioned in the first paragraph. Yes, the server has been having more and more hackers recently, but when you say that: "non are being taken care of", that my friend is complete bullshit. If you'd like to learn more you can read all the ZARP Policies, some are rather interesting...

Richard Hoffmann wrote: no its not bullshit , if you are going to wait Idk how long every LT meeting is and giving the hacker like atleast 1 week to continue hacking without you doing anything then that is what i call bullshit , it must be handled instantly .

TheFierceOwl wrote: The problem is, we can’t do anything when we want to due to the hacking policy. Unless the anti-cheat comes out positive (which it never does) we cant do anything other than gather evidence. Also, like Richard said, the part where you say “none are being taken care of” is still bullshit, because they are being taken care of, its just in the LTM

TheFierceOwl wrote:
I highly doubt you are even qualified to have a dicussion over such a topic as this one, as you fail to see how ZARP's system works and how your idea of: "handling it instantly" will cause many inconveniences and other issues between staff and Users. I'm not taking your liberty of giving your opinion on this, but you seem to not understand why the current policy is as it is. If you'd like to discuss this with someone who has experience with such stuff I'd recommend referring to any Head Administrators or higher who will (i hope) gladly elaborate further as to why this is the way the hackers are being dealt with.

Richard Hoffmann wrote: listen , i dont care if it is handled or not , at the end of the day you are the one losing the players , what im referring to is the point that you called it Bullshit that Hackers are being dealt with , and my answer is no they arent as darling reported multiple users 2 - 3 days ago and still not handled how much more does a hacker need to fuck up a server ?

TheFierceOwl wrote: All 4 users that darling have reported were punished after the meeting.

Nina wrote: Lol i call bs unless the meeting happened between 5 - 4 hours ago because i saw him PLAYING the same guy same ID on 6 Am CEST

TheFierceOwl wrote: A user is not banned on their first offense of hacking. They are warned or kicked and if they continue to hack then they will be banned

We only ban cheaters on the second offence, they all received a warning and will be banned if they continue.

Nina wrote: but insta ban someone who uses an alt . you got me there but okay men this isnt over! Because once a hacker , always a hacker!

TheFierceOwl wrote:
As Nina said, all of the cheaters Darling has reported have been punished. Due to the hacking policy, a user must have at least one other punishment about "cheating" for them to actually get perm banned. If it is the users first offence they will be warned or kicked if they re in-game.

Can this be locked please. The video will be bought up the in the next lead team meeting, Sunday which has already been said. Owl is just making unnecessary drama on this post.

TheFierceOwl wrote:


Let me just reply to what you just said.

Due to the cheating policy, we cannot punish on the spot unless our AC gives us enough proof.

It is a hassle however to wait until every Sunday we get that and we know that. We can agree on that. However, if we have ENOUGH hackers by the Tuesday / Wednesday we can vote and call out an impromptu meeting. Since we figured out this is actually a thing we haven't had enough hackers that were on the server daily to do that.

We are around and we do see the hackers and we do deal with them.

BossComic23 wrote:
I'll keep this unlocked for a further discussion regarding the User ("Hacker") in question, but, any attempts of topic derailment and/or replying with comments that breach the TOU and action will be imminent.

Kurzex wrote: thank you for understanding my point ! <3

Very clear evidence