TOPIC: [PROPHUNT] Xnator demote - doing nothing

Staff Member(s) Name:
Xnator
Staff Member(s) SteamID:
STEAM_0:0:52189662
What Did The Staff Member(s) do?:
nothing
What Server(s) Was This On?:
Prop hunt
Evidence:
SS#1
The owner of this server has not joined the server in 3 MONTHS.

SS#2
The owner of this server has not given a server specific update which has been done by himself (Xgames wasnt specifically for prop hunt, Volcano was prepared by Richard and Patrick) for 5 and a half MONTHS, almost half a year prop hunt has been dry of content.

Additional Notes

Xnator is community developer and thus evidently too busy to handle his own server (speculation) maybe its time to give it over to someone who is actively having interest in bettering the server (Richard)

Volcano was me. Not Richard.
I'd also like to point out there is a reason I haven't been around for a while. It's DEAD's job to keep track of what I am doing, and he knows the reason.

LonelyDodo wrote:

Vodka4Gaben wrote:
In all honesty, and all jokes aside, if I'd ever like to see anyone become the Prop Hunt SO, that'd be .uzi due to his dedication, community involvement, and good knowledge of coding/developing.

TheXnator wrote: XAdmin really taken off huh!

TheXnator wrote: Alright then, why can't the users who clearly feel the need to know, know what you are doing? You don't have to say anything confidential, just use your head.

Yes since kyber resigned either uzi or Richard should be phso

Laziness on zarp is unacceptable

Richard Hoffmann wrote: I couldn’t care less who gets prop hunt owner I only care that it’s someone who is willing to invest time into the server and actually do something or help it, which, to be honest, xnator hasn’t done in over a year, i could go back to the last prop hunt actual content update and would see how much time has been put into prop hunt since it was released

I think an additional Prop Hunt owner would be something to look into. I do believe TheXnator has a very valid reason to be inactive at this point in time, but I think it would be optimal if he could be relieved of some work by distributing some of his Server Owner duties to another player.

Some people here are forgetting that while he does own the server, he is also a Community Developer which precedes his Server Owner duties in terms of priority. As such, he needs to work on all the servers equally, which he does through global updates on all Pointshop servers.

That being said, having someone to put their full effort into the Prop Hunt server would be best not only for TheXnator, but everyone else. Preferably, someone with Lua knowledge (or the willingness to pick up Lua) would get the position. That way we will be able to see a comeback of custom - server-specific - updates on Prop Hunt.

Who knows, though, maybe TheXnator has something in store for Prop Hunt in the near future?


OT: I don't believe a demotion from Server Owner is necessary when we can simply get a secondary owner.

Say wallah????

As much as I want more to be done to help the server, getting rid of Xnator won't help unless we get a new one, and tbh Richard is already doing a lot in terms of trying to get new maps ready for adding as far as I know, I don't know how a new SO would benefit the server

Nafe wrote:
It's personal reasons. DEAD knows to an extent, but I'm not going to go around stating personal things here.
Prophunt doesn't need specific updates; it never has done, as it has always pretty much just been fine with Pointshop updates and occasional bug fixes / improvements for the gamemode, and that lets the server do fine (that is how it was when it was number 1 as well). I do the Pointshop updates, and, by extension, Prophunt updates.

The last Pointshop update was originally going to be specific to Prophunt, since I planned out most of the content before getting Community Developer, but obviously that ended up going across the whole Pointshop instead.

Prophunt as a gamemode is limited in what you can really add to it without ruining the entire gamemode and having an adverse effect, so most of it does just come from the Pointshop. The only other thing is maps, and the only maps I have which have been accepted that I have noted down are ones with CSS textures which are incredibly awkward to add (and they will not bring in players to the extent you may assume, due to different map names from gametracker after recompiling with the textures) - this is also something Richard cannot do. For some reason, people are under the impression that Richard recompiled ph_volcano with the textures, however he couldn't work out how to use the software, so I was the one who did that.

There's no real need for a specific Server Owner for Prophunt. Meetings can be done by a Head Admin if I am unavailable / busy (as I have been for a little while) and there is little else that needs to be done. Not all servers need a dedicated Server Owner for them, and Prophunt can manage perfectly fine from the Pointshop updates. Community Developer essentially entails the role of a Server Owner, but across all of the servers, meaning that, whilst Prophunt is not my primary focus, I do still manage the server behind the scenes, something which can be seen from the fact that I speak about it in the Server Owners meeting.

If you have concerns, you can ask DEAD, and I am sure he can clarify for you.

TheXnator wrote:
Right, but surely you can see that "it's a personal thing" is better than just not telling anyone at all or just saying "im busy"

Nafe wrote: K, Cool. Thanks.

Nafe wrote:
and he has told me that, but why does he have to tell you?

there is no need for this we will deal with this on our own hands