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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14587

Name - [Deadly Vikings] JoNaZ (DK)
STEAM-ID - Unsure.
Reason/Story - Basically, this player should not be a Moderator. He is unable to act professionally and also helps out his friends (jabbe) if they are breaking rules. Today, I noticed Jabbe was changing from BMD to citizen then to gun dealer to citizen and so I teleported to him in suspicion of self supply and I was correct. I told Jabbe not to do it and he was lying to me telling me he wasn't, therefore I issued him with an official warning. Jonaz then came along and started shouting out that I was abusing etc. I then teleported to Jonaz after I dealt with Jabbe and asked him to kindly not act like that when I am dealing with people. He then just said "bish" "haha".
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Server - Server #3
Time and date (CET) - Around 14:15 GMT
Other comment - I hate to make a demote request but this is simply unacceptable Moderator behaviour and is not making our community look the best.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14591

You are not allowed to warn other mods. Staff are never at any point allowed to take action on someone the same rank as them. These are the first guidelines in being a staff member. This situation wouldn't have been there if you had followed this. The rule simply prevents mod vs mod arguments, such as described here. The screenshot did not show the actual abuse, and even if it did: calling you abuser is something you don't get warnings for. Perhaps if he spammed it. But he did it on a local channel in a distant RP area without people around.

Bad report with bad fundamentals.

-support
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14594

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You are not allowed to warn other mods. Staff are never at any point allowed to take action on someone the same rank as them. These are the first guidelines in being a staff member. This situation wouldn't have been there if you had followed this. The rule simply prevents mod vs mod arguments, such as described here. The screenshot did not show the actual abuse, and even if it did: calling you abuser is something you don't get warnings for. Perhaps if he spammed it. But he did it on a local channel in a distant RP area without people around.

Bad report with bad fundamentals.

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Jabbe is not a Moderator, I did not take action against Jonaz, I simply teleported to him to an area where it was just Jonaz and I, and asked him to not do it again, he reacted in a very unprofessional manner. Now, please stop slating all of my posts. Thanks!

If you want to demote me for this and keep people like Jonaz as Moderator instead, go ahead, but I feel I did the right thing.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14597

Vince wrote:
Jabbe is not a Moderator, I did not take action against Jonaz, I simply teleported to him to an area where it was just Jonaz and I, and asked him to not do it again, he reacted in a very unprofessional manner. Now, please stop slating all of my posts. Thanks!

My bad, Jabbe was demoted last night so I didn't figure it would apply this quick. Anyhow. The proof still doesn't show the reaction JoNaZ gave you. And even if you did, he is allowed to express himself. You were in a private area, and I feel like if you TP him in to tell him something he should be able to argue with you. Calling you an abuser is probably a little immature, but you could've recieved worse reactions. Also, you are still not in the position to tell anyone what to do, or not to do.
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If you want to demote me for this and keep people like Jonaz as Moderator instead, go ahead, but I feel I did the right thing.

What the hell? Who said anything about demoting you? LOL.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14600

Vince wrote:
Scottie wrote:
You are not allowed to warn other mods. Staff are never at any point allowed to take action on someone the same rank as them. These are the first guidelines in being a staff member. This situation wouldn't have been there if you had followed this. The rule simply prevents mod vs mod arguments, such as described here. The screenshot did not show the actual abuse, and even if it did: calling you abuser is something you don't get warnings for. Perhaps if he spammed it. But he did it on a local channel in a distant RP area without people around.

Bad report with bad fundamentals.

-support

Jabbe is not a Moderator, I did not take action against Jonaz, I simply teleported to him to an area where it was just Jonaz and I, and asked him to not do it again, he reacted in a very unprofessional manner. Now, please stop slating all of my posts. Thanks!

If you want to demote me for this and keep people like Jonaz as Moderator instead, go ahead, but I feel I did the right thing.

If Vince didn't take any "punishing" actions on JoNaZ, then this isn't invalid Scottie. Jabbe is not moderator anymore (thank god), so taking actions against him is completely valid, as long as there is a reason behind it.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14605

Xahenstraz wrote:
Vince wrote:
Scottie wrote:
You are not allowed to warn other mods. Staff are never at any point allowed to take action on someone the same rank as them. These are the first guidelines in being a staff member. This situation wouldn't have been there if you had followed this. The rule simply prevents mod vs mod arguments, such as described here. The screenshot did not show the actual abuse, and even if it did: calling you abuser is something you don't get warnings for. Perhaps if he spammed it. But he did it on a local channel in a distant RP area without people around.

Bad report with bad fundamentals.

-support

Jabbe is not a Moderator, I did not take action against Jonaz, I simply teleported to him to an area where it was just Jonaz and I, and asked him to not do it again, he reacted in a very unprofessional manner. Now, please stop slating all of my posts. Thanks!

If you want to demote me for this and keep people like Jonaz as Moderator instead, go ahead, but I feel I did the right thing.

If Vince didn't take any "punishing" actions on JoNaZ, then this isn't invalid Scottie. Jabbe is not moderator anymore (thank god), so taking actions against him is completely valid, as long as there is a reason behind it.

Yes. Against Jabbe he is validly moderating. However if he teleports JoNaz in to tell him what to do, and then reports him saying that 'Jonaz called me a abuser' is pretty much looking for trouble. He clearly wanted to speak to Jonaz about what happened, and Jonaz told him what he thought. Just as Vince asked for.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14606

I will not make anymore replies on this topic, if people want to keep him as Moderator I will leave you to it, I just thought I would make this demotion request in attempt to make the ZARP community a better place with less corrupt Moderators.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14612

Vince wrote:
I will not make anymore replies on this topic, if people want to keep him as Moderator I will leave you to it, I just thought I would make this demotion request in attempt to make the ZARP community a better place with less corrupt Moderators.

I think the word corrupt needs allot more than just a guy calling you 'abuser'.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14613

Vince wrote:
I will not make anymore replies on this topic, if people want to keep him as Moderator I will leave you to it, I just thought I would make this demotion request in attempt to make the ZARP community a better place with less corrupt Moderators.

I don't want JoNaZ to be a moderator, I've run into trouble with this guy numerous times. But I can't support this application, if the only thing that happened was him calling you an abuser. He may have called you other things too, but unless you have proof on that, we can't do anything about it.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14614

Scottie wrote:
Vince wrote:
I will not make anymore replies on this topic, if people want to keep him as Moderator I will leave you to it, I just thought I would make this demotion request in attempt to make the ZARP community a better place with less corrupt Moderators.

I think the word corrupt needs allot more than just a guy calling you 'abuser'.

Looks like I will make another reply... Jonaz was with Jabbe whilst he was self supplying, Scottie, do you not understand this? Stop making your posts based on me and more on the actual person the demotion request is based on.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14615

+Support, today when i told him that he can't own doors as Police, he raged calling me bitch and stuff, i took PRTscreen and forgot about it, so now i don't have proof :c.

but i will leave my +Support!
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #14618

Vince wrote:
Scottie wrote:
Vince wrote:
I will not make anymore replies on this topic, if people want to keep him as Moderator I will leave you to it, I just thought I would make this demotion request in attempt to make the ZARP community a better place with less corrupt Moderators.

I think the word corrupt needs allot more than just a guy calling you 'abuser'.

Looks like I will make another reply... Jonaz was with Jabbe whilst he was self supplying, Scottie, do you not understand this? Stop making your posts based on me and more on the actual person the demotion request is based on.

Jonaz is not responsible for Jabbe his acts. I doubt you would take action against your friends. Especially seeing as every admin self-supplies. Even Agent does that.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #15362

Bump away from 2nd page.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #15378

Jonaz has already been demoted to vip.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #15388

Jabbe wrote:
Jonaz has already been demoted to vip.

Wait, he is? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he's still a mod.

But if he isn't, then some admin should [size=360:2p710azo]CLOSE[/size] this.
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[CLOSED]Jonaz Demote Request 11 years 8 months ago #15401

already done. He decided to go VIP by himself

[size=360:2av465ps]CLOSED[/size]
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