TOPIC: [TTT] Demote Request - MemesGoodWithKim

my ingame name : TheFierceOwl
Staff name : MemesGoodWithKim(something like that)

his id : IDK

what did he do : Fspecs everyone in with a " c " in their name . this shows lack of experience and immature acts.

He has been admin which shows responsibility and trust , where he failed them both in one scenario..

Proof:

Hello,

I will handle.

Missclick!

Chienman wrote: y r u never on ttt :cc

Chienman wrote: he shouldn't be let off without a punishment , He has been lying recently about RDM's and as you can see Abusive powers. This isn't the first time he has shown immature behavior and lack of experience. " LMFAO "

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TheFierceOwl wrote: You made a very similar and worse mistake but didn't get punished so why do you expect this guy to be. If he is lying show proof or i am just gonna assume you are making shit up, same with the RDM, zero proof and i know you look for petty ass reasons to try to get staff demoted. Making a mistake does not show immature behaviour or lack of experience, however it does show carelessness.

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Miia wrote: being careless is really immature , not to mention that being careless is really the same meaning as Lack of experience whether that experience is commands or being " Careful "
Study english kids!

Alright guys, please calm down.
It is pretty much a mistake, which could happen to everyone.

I will still wait for Memes to get online and have a chat with him.

Please be patient and avoid adding fuel to such a tiny "fire".

Chienman wrote: TINY? Being constantly like that isn't " Tiny " Next time he abuses ill bring proof , this dude has been lying and rdming for a long time and i only have been giving him chances . Ive got proof from other players. He has been like that for a long term , and i thought he would change , not only , but also on other servers other than TTT. no more words to say here.

TheFierceOwl wrote: Lack of experience and being careless are very different things, i could know how to handle every situation perfectly due to experience but still make mistakes due to being a little careless. While i agree the longer you staff the more careful you become even the most experienced staff members can make mistakes. Oh and immaturity has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Talks about people being immature but spams lennys on the forums smh

TheFierceOwl wrote:
I have to admit, I'm the one who might lose patience very soon.

Still, if you have any proofs of what you claim in your previous post, I'm eager to see any of those, as RDM and abuse is not to be expected from a fellow staff member.

Of course, such claims have consequences, especially on a staff member. I do hope that you have something serious to back up your claims. Or else, I, like many of my colleagues, will consider this slander and overall a way to break Memes' reputation. And things will not go that well for you in the future.

Please understand that you are on the forums, that everyone can read and make an opinion on a staff member according to such claims.

I suggest we all calm down on this thread as more and more coal is being put on the fire here. Any more of these comments will be deleted or edited.

Owl, at this point you're just more upset that you were denied of a promotion and because of it you're taking it out on people who make the smallest mistakes that can easily be resolved by us as mistakes do happen, which is why when they do we learn from it and become not only better staff members, but better people.
Your denial reason was listed as "Needs to gain more experience." You had just recently come back from a long inactivity due to exams which we gave everyone who requested time off due to this reason the benefit of the doubt and then you came back and made a mistake that I agreed with being another reason why you shouldn't of been given said promotion.
You turned into a spiteful child who is more upset that they didn't get what they wanted and is now basically just out to shit talk people behind their backs and make reports over the smallest and stupidest reasons that you could, when these issues could easily be resolved by just simply contacting them yourself or even one of the Lead Team members and ask them to resolve it rather than making these ridiculous reports.
Grow up, you only further prove Miia's point about you being a horrible person that never should of been made staff in the first place by acting like a dick.
Before this when you had just gotten staff and when we had given you the chance to actually prove that you could be, you were doing so good, despite your flaws as everyone has them, you truly had become a better person, I'm just disappointed to see just how far you've fallen and more so why Miia was so against you being staff in the first place.
This is meant to be informational as at this point I'm pretty fed up with reading every report you make against my staff who make the smallest mistake and you expect them to be strung up and left out to dry.

Hi,

I just wanted to make my own reply here, apart of Owl being my friend or not it doesn't really matter as I would probably speak my mind about him too and I'm pretty known on the server about on this I will still tell someone I don't like them for lying or whatever else.

Because I had experienced Memes boy RDMing me and without any proof which I understand, it won't get me far, I still want to add up on this and say what happened for your own opinions being made up.

It was a half round for me as I joined the server after traitors being chosen which makes it more funny actually why an Admin didn't notice that LOL and straight through I walked into the tester room. He was the detective and he RDMed me without even checking me in the tester, I had his back at him actually and he killed me from behind and AFTER he killed me he said in mic "You shot me!". I didn't! Then I reported him and he instantly changed his words in report saying "You shot AT ME"...

That was annoying but I smirked because clearly it gives me another opinion about how small that person is in mind and character too.

So this is why I'm supporting Owl here because IT IS ACTUALLY true. LOL

GG I'd care the less if you punished him or not and also Miia, that's not a valid excuse to say to someone "oh we didn't punish you so why you complain about punishing someone else for doing the same thing?" Really is this what you support on the server?

Helen wrote: Can we stop accusing people of breaking rules without providing any evidence at all, its not going to go anywhere without evidence so there really is no point. There is no need for Memes to be punished for this which is why i said what i said, Owl had a similar situation to this and was not punished for it despite it being worse than what Memes did as slays will stay on the rapsheet. It shows a lot about someones character if they try to fuck with staff because you are salty that you did not get admin.

Look at all these people trying to destroy somebody's reputation with no proof

Hello again,

I have taken the proper time both to wait for Memes to come online, and also to come to a conclusion.
Alas, I will not be able to talk to him today as he is currently inactive.

Two points need to be adressed here :

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First, about the reason of the report and what happened. From what I've seen on the screenshot you provided, Memes has clearly made a mistake by spectating multiple users at the same time. But what is as clear as the mistake, is at it is :

1) A dumb but sincere mistake, tha can happen to every staff member, veterans included
2) Memes instantly saw his honest mistake and unspec its victims.

As I can understand that it affected multiple players, it only did for ONE round and no malicious intent are shown in your proof to become worried about Memes's skills and/or behavior while staffing.

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Second point, about the daily work of our staff and the poor attitude they get in return from certain members.


All of our staff members try their best to provide a solid, steady and fair experience for every user that log in our TTT server. They do it completely for free, while, msot of the time, giving the priority to suers over their own playing experience.

They, sometimes, have to deal alone with a server full of players. It is, at those times, quite difficult to handle every situations correctly. Of course, because they receive a complete training and attention, we managed to handle almost everything correctly. Mistakes of this caliber have almost no consequences, as well as being extremely rare.

In return for their splendid and totally free work on TTT, my colleagues sometimes receive a lot of negative return from users both IG and on our forums, like it happens right here, right now.

While I understand the mall inconvenience users had from this honest mistake, trying to cause drama or starting petty fights over this is not really helping the team as a whole. This will not be the first it happens of course.

The Lead Team listens to all users, and also do its best to put their colleagues back on the right tracks if they abuse both rules or our community's ethos. But we will not harass our staff members, make them lose confidence and pride for such a tiny and honest mistake which, once again, could happen to everyone.

Also, and more importantly, Helen and you, Owl, are here trying to accuse Memes of more severe facts, without any proofs. While I personnaly have the growing feeling that you try to ruin a staff member's reputation, we will, (like we would do for users) not punish a staff members on claims alone. We are meant to be a fair and just staff team and community.

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With all these considerations taken, your report have been :
I truly hope to not see any more reports from you about such petty things.
Instead of figthing against our staff members, please help them appreciating their job and make TTT an even more fun place to be on.

Have a nice day.

Usually we don't respond to reports after they've been locked, but for whatever reason you decided to report Bezzy's earlier message. In that report you said that you are 'fed up with getting disrespected all the time' and that you 'will take action if this continues'.

I am going to make this as clear as I can: your actions and attitude within this community are ridiculous and unacceptable. You really need to rethink your behavior here. Bezzy was entirely in his right to make that message and you are by no means being wronged in any way shape or form.

These demote requests of yours are getting tiring. You're making yourself an enemy to everyone around here. If you truly think this is 'justice' then your sense of justice is perverted. You were not at all treated this way, nor were you ever demoted or brought up for a demotion for simple mistakes like slaying or fspeccing the entire server.

You want others to be treated the same way, but that isn't true at all. You feel like you were unfairly treated and now want to make everyone's time as a staff member as horrible as you can. Nobody should be demoted for this if no malicious intent is involved and it doesn't reoccur often enough for there to be any major issues.

You don't want equal treatment, you want self-gratification. And that is nothing short of disgusting.