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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907751

474 Denis wrote:

sorIe wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

right ok this is where my PERP expertise come into play here

if you have a small enough distance between you and a wall to cover yourself and pull out a gun to defend yourself, you can shoot.

the entire idea of fearrp is to not endanger your life; this is not really endangering his life, as he made sure you couldn't just shoot him by ducking behind cover.

I'll try to get a video as a visual presentation of such theory

EDIT: here's an example:

This was from a PERP report on me which was denied, as my actions were deemed as acceptable and not risking my life. You can see I ducked behind cover, over a MUCH longer distance than Pug did, and shot him while not entirely risking my life. Considering PERP has much stricter rules on risking your life, if what I did was fine, then the warning given to Pug was totally excessive.

PERP = ZARP? xd
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474 Denis wrote:

TimeForPug wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again

gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"

2 robbers = 1 robs other 1 aims at family.
If both of the robbers weren't holding people at gunpoint one with the balls probably tried to run away

Oh u smart

I mean wouldn't you run away if both of them were in another room or grab a weapon

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907752

Nick0GR wrote: This is a tricky situation Not really, it's clear that the rules should allow something like this as you have a window of opportunity to try and pull a gun or escape the "danger". Why would you just stand there and accept that he is going to come back and rob / kill you? it makes no sense at all.	narexa Offline Divine Boarder ❤️ Buffy ❤️ Posts: 8286 Thanks received: 4845 Karma: 252
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907760

There’s also the issue that he was on a balcony and at the start of the video you can see plenty of people in front of pd and from where he was standing it is possible to be seen from over there so on top of clarky not being in line of sight of the person to begin with the robbery probably shouldn’t of even happen given the location. If someone says you have to try and arrest first that doesn’t apply to someone pulling a gun and aiming at you, that’s just suicide. That shit applies to people who are breaking the law in other ways or if you have the jump on them you are supposed to arrest instead of kill.

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907764

Nafe wrote: Raeker wrote: Clarky wrote: You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall How could he have been shot though? Look at the video - FearRP is based on the idea that you're in danger, but there was no danger here. If anything Clarky was in the most danger since he fell from a ladder The ladder put him into fearrp	Tony Lombardi Offline Junior Boarder Posts: 210 Thanks received: 224 Karma: 2
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907772

Gun point breaks as soon as you are not directly pointing a gun at him	RFlex Offline Legendary Member whats up Posts: 5684 Thanks received: 997 Karma: -60
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907774

Clearly wasn't FearRP nor was any action needed to take against Pug for this, however as I've read the rule, the rule itself could use some updating, but I don't think that this needs to escalate beyond this just being removed.	Bezzy Offline Legendary Member Ex TTT Server Owner Posts: 551 Thanks received: 418 Karma: 18
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907777

Bezzy wrote: Clearly wasn't FearRP nor was any action needed to take against Pug for this, however as I've read the rule, the rule itself could use some updating, but I don't think that this needs to escalate beyond this just being removed. If he gave me a verbal i would of not made this, But as he went out of his way to warn me thats why i made this	TimeForPug Offline Adept Boarder Posts: 6768 Thanks received: 1213 Karma: -15
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907797

you can feel the sweat dripping off his forehead as you tap the shit out of him and he instantly tp's	loxeo Offline Senior Boarder how do you do? Posts: 657 Thanks received: 240 Karma: 8
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907799

Bezzy wrote: Clearly wasn't FearRP nor was any action needed to take against Pug for this, however as I've read the rule, the rule itself could use some updating, but I don't think that this needs to escalate beyond this just being removed. I said this to Clarky, who said that "we shouldn't remove warnings from rulebreakers." Still don't quite understand that rhetoric.	Raeker Offline Former Community Manager It hurts the best of us Posts: 9175 Thanks received: 6577 Karma: 213
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907800

Raeker wrote:

Bezzy wrote:

Clearly wasn't FearRP nor was any action needed to take against Pug for this, however as I've read the rule, the rule itself could use some updating, but I don't think that this needs to escalate beyond this just being removed.

I said this to Clarky, who said that "we shouldn't remove warnings from rulebreakers."

Still don't quite understand that rhetoric.

it's the amazing ha logic

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907814

TimeForPug wrote:

Bezzy wrote:

Clearly wasn't FearRP nor was any action needed to take against Pug for this, however as I've read the rule, the rule itself could use some updating, but I don't think that this needs to escalate beyond this just being removed.

If he gave me a verbal i would of not made this, But as he went out of his way to warn me thats why i made this

In your dream he is not giving anyone verbal if he is in a good mood depends he might give people verbal or warning

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907815

Clarky wrote: You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.	SkeletonWarrior Offline Diamond Boarder A Pure Legend! Posts: 3262 Thanks received: 1124 Karma: 3
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907817

SkeletonWarrior wrote: Clarky wrote: You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal. ^^^ I agree with what skeleton said Brick walls aren't able Penetrated so it sorta allows him to grab a gun	Boxy Offline Diamond Boarder Poecilotheria metallica Posts: 2825 Thanks received: 1039 Karma: -5
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907818

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.

By definition he was under threat, regardless if he went behind a brick wall he was still under FearRP. FearRP would only end if I shot a gun.

The rule state this:

FearRP ends in the case of combat starting.

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907820

Clarky wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.

By definition he was under threat, regardless if he went behind a brick wall he was still under FearRP. FearRP would only end if I shot a gun.

The rule state this:

FearRP ends in the case of combat starting.

If you think about it though you wouldn't be scared to pull a gun in reality if you were behind a wall so technically why should it be like that ingame?

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907822

Box0 wrote:

Clarky wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.

By definition he was under threat, regardless if he went behind a brick wall he was still under FearRP. FearRP would only end if I shot a gun.

The rule state this:

FearRP ends in the case of combat starting.

If you think about it though you wouldn't be scared to pull a gun in reality if you were behind a wall so technically why should it be like that ingame?

Because the rules said so??

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907823

Clarky wrote:

Box0 wrote:

Clarky wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.

By definition he was under threat, regardless if he went behind a brick wall he was still under FearRP. FearRP would only end if I shot a gun.

The rule state this:

FearRP ends in the case of combat starting.

If you think about it though you wouldn't be scared to pull a gun in reality if you were behind a wall so technically why should it be like that ingame?

Because the rules said so??

Ah Ah, Ah, You give a good arguement..
I shall disagree with it most people would pull a gun if they were behind a wall i mean fuck, i would.

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907824

Clarky I know it might be hard but you need to understand your not always right	Sada. Offline Mythical Boarder Confused and disgusted by the ban Posts: 5674 Thanks received: 3851 Karma: 263
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907829

Sada. wrote: Clarky I know it might be hard but you need to understand your not always right Please tell me what I'm wrong about, I know it might be hard for you to explain	Clarky Offline Former Community Manager I love Henny Posts: 16702 Thanks received: 9536 Karma: 1000
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 11 months ago #907831

Box0 wrote:

Clarky wrote:

Box0 wrote:

Clarky wrote:

SkeletonWarrior wrote:

Clarky wrote:

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

And how exactly do you endanger his life through a brick wall? He got cover and had the opportunity to grab a gun and defeat the criminal.

By definition he was under threat, regardless if he went behind a brick wall he was still under FearRP. FearRP would only end if I shot a gun.

The rule state this:

FearRP ends in the case of combat starting.

If you think about it though you wouldn't be scared to pull a gun in reality if you were behind a wall so technically why should it be like that ingame?

Because the rules said so??

Ah Ah, Ah, You give a good arguement..
I shall disagree with it most people would pull a gun if they were behind a wall i mean fuck, i would.

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