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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462685

So here is the new rule that has come out today. I will be asking a few questions and providing scenarios to clarify this rule to ensure that it's not exploited or misinterpreted by users or members of staff. I ask that a member of the lead team answers and clarifies these but I would like to hear other peoples interpretations of the new rule.

:zarp: 5.1 Cooldown - Do not raid the same base twice within 10 minutes. This doesn't include Nuke's and Bank Raids or when respawned by special server items (Defibrillators, Tactical Insertions, ETC)!

1. Player X & Y raid player Z, player X gets shot by player Z while attempting to raid the base. Player Y is sitting outside the base shooting his explosive weapon into the base, Player X waits his 3 min NLR and then comes back to join the raid.

- Is player X breaking Cooldown 5.1 as he has come back within 10 mins of his death to join back in the raid and hence liable for a warning/verbal being sent back to spawn ect?


2. Player X & Y raids player Z who is on top floor of nexus and player X places his tactical on the floor then heads up the elevator with player Y. Player X & Y get killed but player X respawns at his tactical and waits for his buddies nlr timer to end to go up the shaft for a second time to succeed in killing player Z and stealing his dank loot.

- Is player Y breaking cooldown or is he legally raiding?
- Is player X legally raiding despite waiting 3 mins for his friend to join with him?

3. Player A, B & C are raiding player D who is in the top floor of nexus. Player A goes up the elevator shaft alone and dies at the top then player B goes up the elevator shaft and gets shot up the top. Player C then goes up on the third try and Succeeds in killing player D.

- Is the raid classed as legal raid as each player is to be warned individually or is it breaking rules as they've attepted to raid more than once and hence be warned accordingly?
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462686

Kalll wrote:
So here is the new rule that has come out today. I will be asking a few questions and providing scenarios to clarify this rule to ensure that it's not exploited or misinterpreted by users or members of staff. I ask that a member of the lead team answers and clarifies these but I would like to hear other peoples interpretations of the new rule.

:zarp: 5.1 Cooldown - Do not raid the same base twice within 10 minutes. This doesn't include Nuke's and Bank Raids or when respawned by special server items (Defibrillators, Tactical Insertions, ETC)!

1. Player X & Y raid player Z, player X gets shot by player Z while attempting to raid the base. Player Y is sitting outside the base shooting his explosive weapon into the base, Player X waits his 3 min NLR and then comes back to join the raid.

- Is player X breaking Cooldown 5.1 as he has come back within 10 mins of his death to join back in the raid and hence liable for a warning/verbal being sent back to spawn ect?


2. Player X & Y raids player Z who is on top floor of nexus and player X places his tactical on the floor then heads up the elevator with player Y. Player X & Y get killed but player X respawns at his tactical and waits for his buddies nlr timer to end to go up the shaft for a second time to succeed in killing player Z and stealing his dank loot.

- Is player Y breaking cooldown or is he legally raiding?
- Is player X legally raiding despite waiting 3 mins for his friend to join with him?

3. Player A, B & C are raiding player D who is in the top floor of nexus. Player A goes up the elevator shaft alone and dies at the top then player B goes up the elevator shaft and gets shot up the top. Player C then goes up on the third try and Succeeds in killing player D.

- Is the raid classed as legal raid as each player is to be warned individually or is it breaking rules as they've attepted to raid more than once and hence be warned accordingly?


All of these are illegal now, as far as I interpret the new rule.
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462731

If anyone else has examples that they want to be answered then free to post them below
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462735

Scenario 1. If at least one player was alive and actively raiding then player x is allowed to come back after NLR.
Scenario 2. He can't wait out the NLR timer he has to continue to actively raid and attempt to enter the base if he wants the raid to be classed as active, sitting in a corner waiting out the NLR and not doing anything will lead to a raid over.
Scenario 3. There's nothing wrong with this it's allowed.
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462754

Scenario 2 i would class as raid over.
Scenario 1 i am not 100% sure, as i've had so many things said involving 1 thing, The last time was updated on this type of scenario, players where not allowed to hold up a raid, by shooting specials, holstering, or making drugs, AND i believe when a player shoots a special weapon, an attempt to enter the base further must be made. <-- Correct me if i'm wrong,


Scenario 3 is just a very tactical and efficient way to raid, alough can cause confusing and issues with staff, as if we periodicly go by, it just makes staff either believe, or think players have just broken cooldown. however there is nothing wrong with that method of raiding.
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462763

IMO rules should cover more scenarios and be written with the thought of exploitation and detail and how could you make it simpler for a staff member to enforce it.

This is just something that I used to have a problem with, having complete confusion over different "unwritten rules" or some which just didn't have enough detail. I'd always have different higher ups tell me things which went against other's rule interpretation.
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Rule 5.1 Clarrification 8 years 3 weeks ago #462780

1, If the raiding party sends 1 person inside while the other one actively tried to explode stuff from the outside, the raid is still active.
2. He can't wait out the NLR timer, He needs to actively explode the base.
3. This is allowed.
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